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U.S. national team depth chart

With the World Cup inching ever closer, it’s just about time to stop nibbling around the edges of the U.S. depth chart conversations and start biting into the chewy center of that little candy bunny.

Plus, there’s been movement recently with Oguchi Onyewu and Charlie Davies being removed from consideration, at least for the time being.

So, here’s the position-by-position pecking order, the way I see it. You’ll notice that several names come up and more than one spot. More on that as you scan the "Excuses, errors and omissions" after each position. Read on, and weigh in:

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Goalkeepers

1. Tim Howard

2. Brad Guzan

3. Marcus Hahnemann

4. Troy Perkins

Excuses, errors and omissions: All this talk of T-Ho being out of form – just a bunch of silliness. He’s the man. Period.

Right back

1. Steve Cherundolo

2. Jonathan Spector

3. Frankie Hejduk

4. Frank Simek

5. Marvell Wynne

Excuses, errors and omissions: I know some people disagree with me here, but I still believe Cherundolo’s service is more consistent. All things considered, I’d say they are the about even in defending, while Cherundolo has a serious edge in experience. Hejduk has looked poor lately. Really, he’s looked just a little bit better than me out there – and I’m not good. Still, I think he’ll shake the funk and have a little something to offer, especially since that icy fearlessness can be contagious in a tight, 23-man camp. And there’s a real value to that.

Center back

1. Carlos Bocanegra

2. Jay DeMerit

3. Chad Marshall

4. Jimmy Conrad

5. Clarence Goodson

6. Danny Califf

* Oguchi Onyewu

Excuses, errors and omissions: For now, we’ll assume that DeMerit is going to bounce back and be the same rugged, reliable presence after he returns from the eye-surgery related absence. Marshall is a better athlete at this point that Conrad, although Conrad has the experience from Germany 2006 on his CV.  Onyewu will pop back up on the list when he’s healthy once again.

Left back

1. Carlos Bocanegra

2. Jonathan Bornstein

3. Heath Pearce

4. Michael Orozco

Excuses, errors and omissions: This is thinner than the delicious pies at my favorite pizza place. I know some people are going to fall over backward and say awful things about me for not putting Edgar Castillo on the list. Here’s the deal: when the guy is wearing a U.S. uniform, lined up across from someone who wishes harm, then I’ll consider him. You can’t attempt to draw up any kind of serious attempt at a depth-chart and include fellows who have yet play for the national team. Any temptation to do otherwise should be immediately quelled.

Holding/central midfielder

1. Michael Bradley

2. Benny Feilhaber

3. Ricardo Clark

4. Maurice Edu

5. Kyle Beckerman

6. Pablo Mastroeni

Excuses, errors and omissions: Bradley at the top is the no-brainer here. After that it gets far more fluid. Edu, for instance, could climb quickly up the list if he can just get healthy and back in the rotation for Rangers. Clark and Feilhaber are probably 2a and 2b at this point, depending on the day’s top need, tidier passing or greater defensive range.

Attacking/central midfielder

1. Landon Donovan

2. Jose Torres

3. Freddy Adu

Excuses, errors and omissions: This one is a little tricky, since Bob Bradley really hasn’t used a true attacking central midfielder. Rather, the United States holds with two centrally and allows the outside midfielders find the dangerous space, whether that means remaining outside or pinching in. Still, if Bradley ever shifted into some kind of 4-2-3-1 or another formation that required someone stationed centrally on the attack, this is probably how the pecking order would look.

Right midfield

1. Clint Dempsey

2. Landon Donovan

3. Stuart Holden

4. Sacha Kljestan

5. Jose Torres

6. Robbie Rogers

Excuses, errors and omissions: Here’s where the list is a little cumbersome. Obviously, Donovan can’t play three positions. This is just a representation of the top player for each spot. So, effectively, a guy like Stuart Holden really isn’t as far down the depth chart as he might appear. And a guy liker Torres might move further up the list, depending upon who is stationed across the field.

Left midfield

1. Landon Donovan

2. Clint Dempsey

3. Jose Torres

4. Brad Davis

5. Robbie Rogers

6. Sacha Kljestan

Excuses, errors and omissions: Davis and Rogers are ahead of Kljestan on this side because they are natural left footers (although Rogers can serve from the right side, too).

Target striker

1. Brian Ching

2. Jozy Altidore

3. Conor Casey

4. Eddie Johnson

5. Jeff Cunningham

Excuses, errors and omissions: Yes, Eddie Johnson. It says something about the U.S. strength at this spot that a man who can only occasionally get off the pine is so far up the list, but it is what it is. Cunningham, by the way, isn’t really a target man, as his first touch and ability to combine is dreadful. But speed and ability to stretch defenses being his best asset, a position higher up the field is his best spot. Ching is listed ahead of Altidore, but it could easily be reversed, especially if the young Hull City striker can get a little more invaluable EPL prime time.

Second striker

1. Landon Donovan

2. Jozy Alditore

3. Robbie Findley

4. Kenny Cooper

5. Chris Rolfe

Excuses, errors and omissions: Before anyone gets his shorts in a twist because I didn’t list Cooper as a target striker, let me say for the umpteenth freakin’ time: he ain’t one. And he’ll tell you that. And so will anyone who has actually watched him play. I know everyone wants to make him one because of his size, but that’s just not who he is, so get over it.

 

 

 

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On Adu

He didn’t make the cut as a wide mid. I know he doesn’t get time there, but he doesn’t get time anywhere. Why hasn’t he been tried wide more often, where his size isn’t as much a disadvantage as centrally?

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by Sounder At Heart on Nov 11, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Explainer on Adu

Yeah, he could definitely play out wide … if he wanted to. Trouble is, he really fancies himself a central creator. That has limited him at this point of his pro career. So, if he had been more willing to play out wide and had put in more time there already, he would be more of a consideration. but again, that’s just my opinion. Bradley may have something different in mind … but i doubt it, considering that Adu has started just two of 22 U.S. matches in 2009, and no important ones.

by Steve Davis on Nov 11, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh, I'm so off that bandwagon

Players PLAY

He doesn’t, at any level.

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by Sounder At Heart on Nov 11, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Even if you take away the "he doesn't play"

I haven’t been so impressed with Freddy. He’s still knocked off the ball too easily and while he sees the play well, he doesn’t position himself well to create space for himself or space for teammates to make runs. He still has talent, no doubt, but even if he were playing, I’m not sure he’d be worthy of inclusion, especially because he still doesn’t defend.

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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 12, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My Target Strikers

1. Altidore
2. Ching
3. Johnson
4. Cunningham
5. Anyone but Casey

Connor ****ing Casey…

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by Rob Luker on Nov 11, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kyle Beckerman

Steve, I really wish you hadn’t even put his name in this article. He might be one of the worst Internationals to ever put “professional footballer” on his tax return.

100% agree with SAH’s assessment of Adu.

Spector looked pretty slow at the Confed Cup and he doesn’t get his game every week at West Ham. Is the guaranteed a spot in the side?

by WWJMD on Nov 11, 2009 3:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re Beckerman and Spector

Beckerman looked nervous during his late appearance vs. El Salvador, which was in his home stadium. He looked much better in U.S. games in the Gold Cup. Week in, week out, he’s a good player in MLS. So, I think it’s just gotten a little fashionable lately to beat the crap out of him at international level, but the truth is just a little more complicated. Great player at that level? No. Serviceable backup? Probably. … Re Spector, I certainly agree with you here. I don’t think he’s guaranteed anything … but others seem to like him, so I’m coming to the conclusion that maybe there are things that I don’t see about him. Currently, I rate him as a solid young player, but one who needs to get into a place where he’s playing regularly.

by Steve Davis on Nov 12, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Where's the love?

Why the lack of caring kindness for Kyle. From the games I’ve seen he’s played pretty well, plus he has a lot of those intangibles I like to see in player. A couple of off nights? Maybe. "The worst international to ever put ‘professional footballer’ on his tax return?? Wow, tell us how you really feel!

I think Beckerman is a solid player that would really rise to the challenge at this level (See Steve’s previously posted article) and I wouldn’t mind seeing him in mid.

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by Obadiah on Nov 12, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's missing.....?

GK—-Keller, Friedel (Syke)
D——Parkhurst, Moor, Gonzalez, Boswell (just a list)
M——Lewis (lefty), Beasley, Rolfe, Wolff, McCarty, Thorrington
F——Twellman, Tracy, the american kid who scored the goals at Hoffenheim last season,

by jessexy on Nov 11, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for mentioning Orozco

While I can’t see him in this WC, I think he’s still a good player and worthy of mention. You do have him at left back because that’s where the US’ black hole is, but by 2014, I think he can be on the roster as a center back. I’ve seen him some for his club and I like him in the center.

The only qualm I really have is Robbie Rogers, who I’d have ahead of Davis and Torres on the left. His speed is something that neither Davis or Torres have and while I wouldn’t rate him ahead of Torres as a player, for what the US would use him for, I’d have him higher on the depth chart. I do think he’s a better player than Davis on the international level.

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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 12, 2009 2:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

re Rogers

yeah, those are good arguments. i don’t think there’s a lot of difference in overall quality. between Torres, Rogers and Davis, it’s really what you value more in evaluating individuals. Torres is better in passing and tight possession, Rogers has more speed w/out a doubt, and Davis is probably the best server from the left. (I see Rogers every week, and his service is still inconsistent at best.) so, i wouldn’t go to the mat for the order in which i listed here … it’s a good debate

by Steve Davis on Nov 12, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, there isn't really much to seperate them

For me, when discussing a depth chart like this, it comes down to how a player would be used on the team. Among the three, the only time I see them getting into a match for the US on the left (this wouldn’t apply to Torres centrally) is in the last 20 minutes. I think in that situation, Rogers’ speed is the best asset any of the three have because he can either make a team pay on a counter if we’re behind or keep defenses from getting too compact if we’re ahead. I think what we saw against Costa Rica is how any of the three would be used and Rogers was dangerous.

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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 12, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dempsey Problem with your DC.

One problem I have with your depth chart is Dempsey. Why is he not mentioned as the #1 option for 2nd Striker? Donavon hasnt played anything but outside mid for the USMNT for at least 14 monthes. Where as Dempsey played it 3-4 times since June( and has scored goals). With what some call depth at outside mid (Torres, Rogers, Holden)… and no depth at foward now that Charlie is gone, Dempsey should be your #2 foward option.

by Jscho316 on Nov 13, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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