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Notes from the Netherlands-United States friendly in Amsterdam

Once again, we see that the United States team under Bob Bradley is better when it’s pressed, when put into action against quality competition.

Was the United States great Wednesday at the Amsterdam? No. Did the Bradley Bunch do OK against a very good Dutch side? More or less, yes. Jonathan Bornstein obviously had a couple of brain farts. Michael Bradley struggled with his passing and Robbie Findley once again failed to exploit what was surely his last chance to claim a starting assignment in South Africa.  But otherwise, the Americans held up adequately.  Don't knock “Adequate” in this case. "Adequate" is acceptable on the road against such a class foe.

I know the product Wednesday in those new Nike blues wasn’t great, and I know the Dutch had better chances over 80 minutes. Still, a 2-1 loss to a side so stacked with midfield options that it can bring Real Madrid’s Rafael van der Vaart off the bench is hardly an awful night.

Click through for five thoughts on the match that will surely have you nodding your head in agreement:

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1. The United States doesn’t have a John Heitinga at the moment. The Dutch center back is what every good defense needs, a reliable communicator, someone to settle the back, make all the simple plays and move possession cleanly into the midfield. Nor does the U.S. generally have defenders as comfortable with the ball as the Dutch men of the rear guard. We knew that already, but the contrast was telling as U.S. defenders created some nervous moments with balls from the back that were something less than perfect. FYI: last possession for theUnited States before about 1 minute and 14 seconds of almost total Dutch possession leading to the second goal: Bornstein’s big pass out of the back that went nowhere.

2. The United States doesn’t have a Wesley Sneijder at the moment. OK, this one clearly falls into the “You don’t freakin’ say!” category. The Dutch playmaker was a midfield tour du force, absolutely ruling the middle of the Amsterdam ArenA park. He worked well with Nigel de Jong and Mark van Bommel in Holland’s 4-3-3, but he was even more effective in spurts upon van der Vaart’s second-half introduction.  Jose Torres looks like the closest thing Bradley’s team will have to a creator. And, suffice to say, Torres is no Sneijder.

 3. Mistakes in the back will be punished with ruthless prejudice in the World Cup. For Bornstein, who gave up the first-half penalty kick and probably should have been whistled for another, such sloppiness in the final third could prove particularly damaging to his cause. (Especially with Heath Pearce coming off a nice match against El Salvador, and then producing a couple more nice moments in mop up time Wednesday.) Heck, even the Dutch learned a lesson about the jeopardy of defensive inattention. No one on the ESPN broadcast mentioned it, but what a piece of shoddy defending by the Dutch on the late U.S. goal!  No one ever bothered to mark Carlos Bocanegra, who floated in completely unchallenged as the Netherlands switched off. Credit to Bocanegra for exploiting the blunder.

4. We did see about 15 minutes of what so many U.S. fans believe the team needs to do: address the flagging depth at striker by utilizing Landon Donovan as a second forward underneath a target man. As Alejandro Bedoya checked in just past the 60-minute mark, DaMarcus Beasley went from the right to the left, Bedoya manned the right and Donovan slid into the slot beneath striker Jozy Altidore. (Not that you’d know any of this listening to ESPN analyst John Harkes, who never mentioned the tactical adjustment.) How’d it work out? No real effect. Bradley wasn’t having a good day passing and Maurice Edu doesn’t look ready to step up to this level. So Donovan really didn’t have much in the way of support behind him. 

5. Stuart Holden was having a fairly productive match before de Jong’s reckless work. The U.S. staff sent Holden for precautionary x-rays. Let’s hope for the best, especially as Holden has just gained a toehold on a starting spot forBolton. I’d say that if Holden is healthy and in form, we won’t have to worry as much about seeing Beasley out there. Otherwise, it would be a stretch to say that we had any real revelations from the match. Bornstein’s bad night will probably have some carry-over. As mentioned, Bradley’s passing was off and Edu isn’t back into form after his injury struggles. Pearce made the most of limited minutes. Bocanegra and Jay DeMerit did OK in the middle. Tim Howard was solid as ever.  Jonathan Spector was occasionally pushed beyond his comfort zone on the right. Findley couldn’t find a way through; again, that’s no revelation. Jozy Altidore wasn’t outstanding, but he did have his moments. That’s about what you’d expect of such a young talent.

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One clear benefit to working for Germans

…is that they don’t mind when I need to catch a match during the workday. If the Germans are playing they usually tell me to meet them at the bar.

I thought Findley had a terrible game. He had several chances where his speed gave a chance to create, and did absolutely nothing with it. I wanted him to do well, but I don’t think he helped his chances for South Africa today.

We have to do a better job distributing the ball out of the back. It’s either a misplaced pass, a random long ball, or a clearance out of bounds when there where outlets available. It would be nice if when the Forwards win a few of those they do something with them, but that’s another story. Even the slightest pressure on our back four results in them basically giving it away and is the big reason we go long stretches without any possession. I think this is one of our biggest problems.

Hated to see Holden go down. He’s one player I thought/think has a chance to really have a breakout year. Played well for Bolton after recovering from a minor injury, and I just hope that this one doesn’t cost him too much time. Seeing him go down put me in bad mood for the rest of the match.

I thought service into the box and delivery from set pieces was poor overall (something else I think Holden excels at). We don’t have enough possession to be able to get away with wasted crosses and not giving ourselves a chance from a set piece. If we do get good delivery we have plenty of players capable of finishing.

I agree with you about the lone US goal….what were the dutch doing?

"Well, at least our players kept their helmets on, so that showed some intelligence"-Bob McNair

by papabear on Mar 3, 2010 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

I’m absolutely with you on distributing the ball out of the back, our complete lack of it drives me insane. I can’t understand what value anyone sees in giving up a 50/50 ball when we have possession. Even back to Howard, it seems like every time the response is to just pummel the ball as far up field as possible. If you build play through the midfield, the absolute worst thing that can happen is losing possession and giving up a counter attack, however you’re nearly guaranteed to put the other team back on the attack after you boot the ball in the general vicinity of a very poorly supported attacking player.

Not to knock the writer of this entry, but I get so sick of hearing things like “Don’t knock "Adequate" in this case”. This sport is the only sport in this country where average is accepted, and it drives me nuts. Our players accept ties in hostile environments as positive outcomes, hell they go into games “just hoping for a draw.” For all the other reasons this sport hasn’t quite caught on yet, i think this is a major one, it’s a culture of mediocrity and it’s embarrassing.

by GKINMD on Mar 3, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If you can draw against a superior

opponent, it’s a good thing. Netherlands #3 in the world, U.S #18

by I need more Esteban on Mar 4, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

1) They didn’t draw, they lost.
2) It’s understandable to draw, or lose to a superior team. It’s not ok to be happy/complacent about it.

I’d be willing to bet the US Hockey team STILL isn’t content to have lost to the Canadian juggernaut. You can say that this was just a friendly, but that’s the problem, at this point every match needs to have world cup intensity.

by GKINMD on Mar 4, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Our players accept ties in hostile environments as positive outcomes

This is what I was responding to, I know they lost

by I need more Esteban on Mar 4, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I was referring to ties, like the world cup qualifying effort drawing in El Salvador.

by GKINMD on Mar 4, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem with your arguement is

that even top level clubs in cup competitions will play for ties to advance because of the away goals rule. I think it is a difference between games. In soccer a draw can be acceptable in many situations and can even advance you in a tournament setting.

I think this is difficult to understand for someone in American culture where so much value is placed on success and a draw is considered a loss, especially in our major sports. Baseball, game cannot end in a tie, basketball the same, college football no ties. Of the major sports here only NFL games can end in ties and that happens so rarely that most people don’t know it can still happen. Point is, the sport is just different and a draw is different in soccer than it would be in another sport.

by the12thman11 on Mar 4, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

A draw is better than a loss, no argument there, and it will obviously go farther towards advancing your side in the round robin part of a tournament, however you wont draw your way through a knockout tournament such as the latter rounds of the world cup. The problem I have isn’t with drawing, it’s the psychology of playing for a draw, which sets you up for failure in later rounds.

by GKINMD on Mar 4, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Well i don’t necessarily sets you up for failure. Maybe it would for kids, but professionals should have more mental stability in their game than that. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

by the12thman11 on Mar 5, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally

I would be quite happy were the US squad to draw England in their first match this summer.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Mar 5, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Bradley 90' streak adds another game

Add another game to the streak of Michael Bradley starting and never subbed. I believe it has been 3 to 4 years. Even Donovan was taken out.

Bornstein should be done. Every high level game i have seen him in he makes a critical mistake that leads to a goal. And even when its not necessarily his fault (the deflection) he seems to be right in the middle of a goal.

I thought Beasley was as good as anyone else. I came out of the game with a positive review for him. Maybe its because its the first time in recent memory that I wasnt calling for him to be pulled from the game and never return. Thats something, i guess.

by GeoJock on Mar 3, 2010 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

Totally agree

About Bornstein. He should be done.

by chrisperry1983 on Mar 3, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

what about the last WCQ?

by Lancers25 on Mar 3, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually thought that Bradley Junior had a pretty good game. He worked clogged passing lanes on defense and broke up many plays in the second half. The times he did get forward and found the mark with passing resulted in good chances (the free kicks won by Altidore and Bedoya).

I would disagree on Beasley. Outside of the last couple of services I didn’t think he did much. But at least he could trap the ball unlike the last time I saw him with the nats.

by Bingham Lab on Mar 4, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Dont Give Up on Bornstein Yet

He did well in some WC qualifying games. He is still young and growing. At this point in time I may go with Pearce over him but I still want him on the squad as a backup.

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by johnjahafanclub on Mar 4, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more, Steve

I hate to sound like a suck-up, but I am indeed nodding my head with agreement on all 5 points (especially point #1, which is a fantastic piece of insight). My only quibble would be with the knock on Edu, who I thought did a good job of keeping things simple and breaking up plays. As that’s pretty much his job on the field for the US, I think it’s a bit harsh to say he seemed short of the task at hand. Other than that, though, we’re on the same page.

Finding a US answer to Heitinga is going to be tough, because it’s a soccer cultural difference. The Dutch value the ball more than we do, and it’s not just a symptom of Bradley or the players at hand. This goes down even to the crap level I play at in my indoor league. We prioritize not being in defensive danger over possession of the ball. If Heitinga was born in the US, we would try to make him into a defensive midfielder or some kind of wingback. The perceived risk of having a center back who is willing to have the ball at his feet is too much for coaches ranging from the top of the pyramid all the way down to low-quality youth teams.

On point #3, I think it points to a general standard of play that we have to meet. I went to my friend’s gym after the game, and he wanted to know how it went. I told him that it was a great indicator of what will happen to us against England and in any potential 2nd round game if we turn in an average performance. Our opponents will, due to their skill and endeavor, end up benefiting from the game’s big mistake (goal #1) and those pieces of luck that always seem to go against lesser teams (goal #2). We cannot afford to be average in the World Cup. The standard with every player needs to be higher than just avoiding being garbage. We won’t beat or even tie England with an average performance, and Slovenia and Algeria would love for us to come in and just play “OK”. We have to play these big games like everything is on the line, because eventually we will have everything on the line against a team that is better than us on paper.

by ChestRockwell on Mar 4, 2010 12:40 AM EST reply actions  

i'll go back and watch Edu a little closer

you do have to watch those D-Mids pretty close, or you’ll miss the bulk of their work … which, as you guys point out, is to break up attacks. his linking play was lacking, in my opinion. that’s not surprising, considering how little he’s played at this level, particularly of late. but busting up the other guy’s thrusts just as important.

by Steve Davis on Mar 4, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Defensive Mids

Honestly, I feel like that position is really hard to evaluate on television. You can get a much better sense of that position in person.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Mar 4, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

great point

“We prioritize not being in defensive danger over possession of the ball.” This is one of the frustrating things about several teams that I’ve played for in recent years. Nice insight.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Mar 4, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

A Couple of Things...

I understand that this is a friendly and Beasley played in Netherlands against/with some of these guys. But to see him come into the game laughing and slapping hands with the Dutch just rubbed me the wrong way. I mean de Jong just knocked out Holden and Beasley is playing for a roster spot. I know players have different mentalities, but when you but on the red, white, and blue to repsent our country please turn the intesity up. Like ChestRockwell above, if we play average we will be three and done. And just like conditioning, you can’t magically dial up the intensity.

Comment about the new jerseys. I am not a fashion expert and didn’t find the jerseys to be ugly, but I don’t understand why we switch our designs every couple of years. I mean countries like Brazil, Mexico, Germany, etc. pretty much have stayed consistent with their designs. Obviously a different colar or piping here or there not withstanding. An alternative third jersey for commemorative resons wouldn’t be bad occasionally. But can’t we just find a design and stick with it to build some tradition. At least our goalies aren’t wearing green anymore.

by Bingham Lab on Mar 4, 2010 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

i hear ya

in general, i might be inclined to agree. in this case, he slapped hands with van Bommel (that’s the only one I saw, anyway). they were teammates before. and you’re right about de Jong, who should have been thrown out of the match. van Bommel was pretty well behave all evening. and he certainly can be a hard-hitting MoFo on the field, so i’d give Beasley a pass for this one. (and believe me, I’m hardly one to give DMB a pass, as he has been squandering opps in the U.S. shirt for more than four years now.

by Steve Davis on Mar 4, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

More of a general sentiment on athletes in general than an idictment on Beasley. Some players have the light switch the can turn off/on to focus (I’m thinking Frankie Heydude). I’ve had coaches were if I ever pulled something like that, I wouldn’t see the field for the rest of the game. It is nice to know that these guys care as much as some of us fans do.

That said, it probably wouldn’t have bothered me so much if he didn’t spend the rest of the half milling around.

by Bingham Lab on Mar 4, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Fashion...

I actually like changing every few years within the same red/white/blue color scheme. Makes the older kits look old school. And tradition-wise, we continue to nod to the 1950 jersey.
Minor points— Germany away jersey has actually changed a fair amount through the years (green, black, red jerseys) Also much prefer our keepers in green to the purple or whatever color that was on Howard last night. Green looks cool and confident somehow.

by Irrlicht on Mar 4, 2010 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

Agree to Disagree

I equate it to college football. I would rather have a classic jersey (like Penn State, Texas, Notre Dame) that is easy to identify than the mish-mosh we have going on (like Oregon). Special games, friendlies, etc. you can throw out a something new for the occasion.

I would prefer the national team goalies to wear a national team color. Just my two cents.

by Bingham Lab on Mar 4, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Holden Foul

Steve – What are the odds a US player would have received a straight red for the leg-breaking, studs up tackle De Jong visited upon Holden?

I’m guessing the same ref would have soiled himself in a mad rush to grab his red card had Holden fouled De Jong in the same manner. It’s possible that the fact it was a friendly made the ref think it was more clumsy than malicious, but a leg-breaking tackle is a leg-breaking tackling, whether intentional or not.

While we are not technically and tactically at the level of a team like Holland, the US seems to suffer as a result of being perceived as “fit”, “robust”, “physical”, but not good at the whole soccer thing. I would readily concede we are not as technically or tactically strong as hollands, Italys, Germanys, Brazils and Argies, but we are not overly physical.

van de Vaart stated as much after the game:

“One person not so impressed with the U.S. was Netherlands and Real Madrid playmaker Rafael van der Vaart, who came on in the 60th minute. “A robust side,” van der Vaart said in Dutch, when asked what he thought of his opponents. “But not great in terms of quality. Hard to play against though. They played compact, we had trouble getting through. Soccerwise they’re not great but they’re hard to beat.”

The rush to grab for red was an issue the US dealt with at the Con Fed Cup last summer and also in the past in other comps.

I would argue that we are no more of a physical team than dozens of other soccer nations, however we are perceived as thuggish.

 I guess it is what it is.

by Azzurri11 on Mar 4, 2010 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

Italy/US in Kaiserlautern

That game’s a perfect example. De Jong’s tackle was roughly equivalent to Mastroeni’s straight red. I don’t quibble with PM getting a red in that match, but De Jong probably should have gotten one too. The fact that he didn’t even see yellow if disgraceful.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Mar 4, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

DeJong was given a yellow for the challenge

Go back and look at the replay. The card came out late after the challenge, but it did come out.

by The King of Norway on Mar 4, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh

That’s good to hear.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Mar 4, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes re the biased reffing

I’ve said before that in global soccer, the United States frequently gets the shaft. in polite company, I’d say it this way: “Due to it’s place in the world order, the United States rarely gets the benefit of the doubt.” you could probably say the same for other mid-rung nations. and I bet the lower-rung clubs in the various leagues would tell you the same, that the ManUs, Chelseas, AC Milans, Real Madrids, etc. gain the benefit of the doubt far more frequently than they do.

by Steve Davis on Mar 4, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Red card in a friendly?

Very rare, I must say. Often, if a player does something that warrants a red the manager will be “allowed” to quickly substitute the player.

Looks like Holden’s out for a month and a half; a real shame for the lad.

by rudi on Mar 4, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Steve, about that last post...

It’s very doubtful to me that a referee takes a personal bias into account for any particular foul. On replay, the tackle looked bad. But live action, from where the referee is standing, it was a rough tackle but the studs weren’t in view. I would equate the tackle more to Michael Bradley’s tackle that he was sent off for in the Confed Cup. I don’t think that was a send off either, so I’d say that a yellow was right, even though the tackle on replay looked worse than a yellow. Maybe an orange card, somewhere in the middle.

For this idea that referees prefer one team over another, that’s a dangerous accusation. I don’t think that the US is overly punished rather than other countries. Every side on the planet somehow thinks there is a referee conspiracy against them. We don’t have the time to have the clandestine meetings to plot our devious referee plans against all the countries in the world. We would, but we just don’t have the time.

Chad the Ref

by Chad the Ref on Mar 4, 2010 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

I respect your thoughts...

… because I know you man the middle yourself. I just can’t help but think like this: he was standing close, he knew there was SOMETHING amiss. Not even a yellow? I don’t think it’s anti-US sentiment or bias … but I do think it’s “advantage to the stronger team.” I think it would have been the same if, say, it was an Algerian player who was left sprawled on the deck in pain. there’s another post about it all now. take it apart, big guy …

by Steve Davis on Mar 4, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, and...

John Harkes sucks. He’s to busy regailing (sp?) us with tales of his playing days and saying “obviously” and “situation” to tell us about a formation shift. That’s even if he recognized it himself. He was probably too busy planning when he was going to bang JP’s wife.

And Mexico was wearing a black uniform last nite with green underarms and sleeve pipings. They didn’t look particularly sharp against New Zealand either, playing wise.

Chad the Ref

by Chad the Ref on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

Steve, about that last post… It’s very doubtful to me that a referee takes a personal bias into account for any particular foul. On replay, the tackle looked bad. But live action, from where the referee is standing, it was a rough tackle but the studs weren’t in view. I would equate the tackle more to Michael Bradley’s tackle that he was sent off for in the Confed Cup. I don’t think that was a send off either, so I’d say that a yellow was right, even though the tackle on replay looked worse than a yellow. Maybe an orange card, somewhere in the middle.

For this idea that referees prefer one team over another, that’s a dangerous accusation. I don’t think that the US is overly punished rather than other countries. Every side on the planet somehow thinks there is a referee conspiracy against them. We don’t have the time to have the clandestine meetings to plot our devious referee plans against all the countries in the world. We would, but we just don’t have the time.
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I disagree. I ‘m not claiming that refs walk onto a field with the idea that "i don’t like this nation (or club), but I like this one, and I’m going to call fouls accordingly",but if you are saying that refs are 100% objective and not affected by biases, subconcious or otherwise, I will disgree.

It’s that way in every sport. It’s only human and officials are human.

I would also add that on a more conscious level, the line forms to the left of nations who DO NOT want to see the US succeed in soccer. And the reason that is the case has nothing to do with soccer. See the US / Mexico rivalry.

I’ll brace for impact now.

by Azzurri11 on Mar 4, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Of course we're human...

But we get accused of being sub-human so often, that it takes a very strong individual (which anyone who sticks to refereeing for more than 1 year has to be one).

Referees don’t have the time to watch a foul happen such as the one committed against Holden, consider his biases in his head, decide which team he is biased against, see who committed the foul and if he should go harsher or lighter with punishment, then dish out said punishment. It simply doesn’t work that way, no matter how many of you would like to attribute that ability on us.

Chad the Ref

by Chad the Ref on Mar 4, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Just a little tip

When replying to someone’s comment, you can click the reply button under that comment. It just helps the conversation flow easier and easier to follow.

I see your point, but it sometimes is hard to believe there is no bias.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Mar 4, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry, i’m a newbie.

by Azzurri11 on Mar 4, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries

It just helps to see what’s going on with the conversation.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Mar 4, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoops....

But we get accused of being sub-human so often, that it takes a very strong individual (which anyone who sticks to refereeing for more than 1 year has to be one) “to not believe it.” Left that off.

Chad the Ref

by Chad the Ref on Mar 4, 2010 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

Bias

Look, I think refs have a difficult and more often than not thankless job, but my comments regarding biases are less about consprracy than about psychology and what we know about the way in which people think and act. Think Malcom Gladwell, not Oliver Stone.

I’ll quit arguing with the ref now. :)

by Azzurri11 on Mar 4, 2010 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

A wise choice...

I’ve never won an argument with a ref. They are SO stubborn. :)

by DissidentAggressor on Mar 4, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Point #1 is one of the continued problems with the US team

There just isn’t much value placed on possession in the US structure. In terms of marking and physical abilities, I think Demerit, Onyewu, and Bocanegra do a fine job. However, none of the US CBs has demonstrated any sort of ability to maintain possession of the ball after making a stop. Clearing the ball and just resetting the situation can’t go on forever.

by FrankGrimes on Mar 4, 2010 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

I win again!!!! Stevo....

I posted on today’s entry why I believe it was a yellow card rather than red. I’ll repost it here…

Chad the Ref

by Chad the Ref on Mar 5, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

This is getting tiring....

Let me be abrupt and frank:
1) It was a penalty. No question, and anyone who thinks otherwise is simply wrong.
2) The reason there was no red card was because the referee was screened from the tackle. The tackle occurred on the other side of the referee, and I believe there was another player coming into his vision, maybe even coming thru it. If he would have been on the other side, he would have seen the leg being bent backwards by the extended cleat. Then he would have produced the red. Was this bad positioning? Not really, as he was running from behind the play. There was no way he could have gotten to the other side. Simply an unfortunate incident.

All of this talk of bias against the Americans gets tiring. You want to know why the Irish press gets onto us after game against Italy? Ideas like this.

Love you Stevo, but this if totally misguided.

Chad the Ref

by Chad the Ref on Mar 5, 2010 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

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