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Epic U.S.-England clash dead ahead; meanwhile, my mind wanders …

There's a harder edge to Landon Donovan these days. I mean, see how dark it is around him?

– I saw this in a Guardian piece this morning. It’s about Landon Donovan, about how he’s the only real U.S. star, and about how the best U.S. hope doesn’t feel the pressure the English players do. I’m sure the writer is correct, but only to a point.

“Win, lose or draw, the USA forward will sleep easily on the eve of the game knowing that national ridicule does not await him and his team-mates.”

Uh, has this man read the message boards?

Believe it, if the United States loses and looks bad, Star Spangled soccer supporters will be busting blood vessels from sea to shining sea.

– Media access is somewhat restrictive, so you don’t really get a lot of shooting-the-bull time with players. Still, from a slight distance, I get the feeling that Landon Donovan is a different person at this World Cup. He’s got a bit of an edge.  Some of the former naïveté has disappeared. I won’t call him “the brooding Donovan” just yet, but there is a real seriousness about him. I have a hunch it will serve him well. (Then again, the timely transformation does make sense. If he’s ever going to bear down and find that extra gear of focus, I supposed this is the time. This ain’t the CONCACAF Gold Cup, after all.)

(Much more after the break ...)

Star-divide

– I saw a funny headline this morning about the fan zones and stadiums here, and how taking alternate routes is the “key to avoiding traffic mayhem.” Well, I’d bet you an official Jabulani match ball (“It’s the roundest ever!” according to FIFA literature, as if they had been playing with taped-up paper wads all along) that traffic mayhem will be endemic. Avoid it? May as well try to avoid trees in a forest.

– Speaking of the fiasco factor: getting around will be on ongoing adventure. My cab driver got lost last night taking me back from the media center to my little bungalow. One wrong turn, a few kilometers of “hmmm, this doesn’t look familiar,” and we were smack in the middle of why they call this the dark continent. Man, was it freakin’ dark. We were on a tiny road, overgrown with brush, no lights in sight. No nothing in sight. I’m thinking, “Well, that’s it. We’ll either be broadsided any second by a charging rhino or taken hostage by AK-wielding marauders, destined to end up on in the cargo hold of a slave ship destined for Bangladesh.”

Luckily, I had my GPS-blessed Google Phone, and I lived to fight another day.

– Africans call fellow Africans “bra.” It sounds very slang. I cannot possibly think of a way to look like an elitist tourist poseur than to attempt to call someone “bra.”  I can only hope to remember my rule next time I go out for late beers with any of my journalist pals here.

– I bought my first melktert (milk tart) today. Planning on having it later. The lady at the store told me, “It’s very South African.” Well, so is the dangerous African blister beetle, and I sure don’t want that bad boy crawling around my desert tray!

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or Broo, that's what I remember my South African buddies saying a ton.

I still think Dempsey is the best American player ever. Seriously, Donovan is good, but there is no other player on the team who has the ability to go from zero to absolutely world class/ only a couple of players in this world could have done that like Dempsey (the Nedved gear, as I like to call it). Donovan’s mean performance might look better (he plays a position more open to that interpretation) but Dempsey’s peaks are so incredibly high that they cancel out the valleys.

"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair

by Londonjoe on Jun 11, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

No question that Donovan is good...

… but I think he’s overrated, based on all the pub that he gets. I agree that Dempsey is the best on the field right now… especially with the form he’s had recently.

I just weep that Davies isn’t there. I’d be so much more optimistic about our chances if he were on the field. Davies and Altidore looked to be the most dangerous tandem the USMNT has had up top since… well, ever.

As far as historical players go, though… I don’t think one can overlook Brian McBride, either. That guy was awesome.

by vineyarddawg on Jun 11, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am biased but Dempsey would be the first guy I would pick for my team.

As the Fulham blogger I see him all the time. As Londonjoe described he has the ability form nowhere to make the spectacular play. The best word to describe him is “clutch”.

by Russ Goldman on Jun 11, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

Best ever? Gotta be Claudio, bra.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Jun 11, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha. You could just turn this into a “My Adventures in South Africa” blog, and I’d be entertained.

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by Jake Shapiro on Jun 11, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, guys, gotta disagree

Donovan is the best. You’re looking strictly at goal scoring….there’s more to soccer than that. Donovan does it all….all the time. Dempsey is hit and miss. Without LD on the field supplying the energy, the wisdom, the most excellent final pass, the great defending, the intelligence….U.S. doesn"t go.

by Soccer Shorts on Jun 11, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

think I agree with Soccer

Dempsey has the potential to be better but Donovan is so key. I love his ability to make the pass that sets up the pass or cross to an open player. I see so many players unwilling to do this and want to be the guy to make it.

It’s a great debate, I hope they both play out of their minds!

by I need more Esteban on Jun 11, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm...starting XI?

Howard/Friedel
Cher———Pope——-Onyewu———-Bocanegra
Stewart————Ramos—————-Donovan
-————————-Reyna
-——-McBride————Dempsey

2nd team would consist of

Freidel/Howard
Lewis———-Balboa——Llamosa———-Sanneh
-————————Mastroeni
Jones—————————————————-Beasley
-————————Dooley
-———Wynalda———————Altidore or Twellman/Kreis/Razov/Cunningham/Johnson

The forwards here after Wynalda are pick ‘em. All had their moments, mainly in MLS but none distinguished themselves. I’m hoping Altidore moves ahead of the pack with this WC. Sanneh got picked for his play at the 2002 WC. So good.

Honorable mention: Keller, the mess of forwards, Armas, Lalas, Agoos, Murray

Flame away as I did this real quick-like and probably have missed some guys.

by ursula on Jun 11, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Your biggest oversight:

John O’Brian. He starts. No question. Also, I’d definitely put Sanneh over either Cherundolo or Bocanegra.

by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 11, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

JOB!!! Of course!!!!

Yeah, I’d put him in the first XI and move Ramos to the 2nd.

Sanneh over Cher and Boca? Tough call. Sanneh had the brief period of greatest brilliance of the three but the other two have had by far the longer solid careers. All three are above the next two, Lewis and Agoos. Hell, switch Cher and Sanneh.

by ursula on Jun 11, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

USMNT soccer fans will be very pissed about a bad loss

but that’s still not all that many people in the US. Remember that a fair number of the soccer fans in the US will reserve their passion for other teams in the World Cup (Mexico would be the main one of those, I’d imagine). And I doubt anyone would be tearing their hair out about a draw with England.

Not the same in England, needless to say. The entire country will be furious about a loss, and pretty damn pissy about a draw, too, I’d think.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jun 12, 2010 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

You'd be surprised.

People aren’t writing off the US team (apart from the part-time fans who know sod all about the game) and a draw won’t be seen as the end of the world. Failure to beat the other two teams, though, will indeed signal all kinds of unpleasantness.

My biggest fear is we get a prissy ref as it should be a nice physical contest.

by rudi on Jun 12, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the refs have been very good so far, from what I've seen

If the US – England match were 3rd in the group, then I think we’d all be sort of figuring that both teams would be playing for the draw by that point. I don’t think the US would end up playing for 1st if it risked ending up in 3rd. So it would make a certain amount of sense for both teams to play somewhat conservatively. If it’s tied with 20 minutes left or so, I doubt either team will push forward too hard.

It’s interesting what you say about the English fans and media. I can’t get a real solid sense of people’s genuine expectations. One England supporter I know online told me yesterday that he doesn’t think very many England fans would be satisfied with losing in the semis. Another told me that he doesn’t think very many believe that England can win the whole thing. It seems to me that there was a lot of confidence during qualifying, in the sort of “Hey, we could actually do this this time…” vein, but now people are trying to be “sensible” about it, especially with the injuries. But still, I think folks are hoping that Rooney can just carry them all the way (and it’s not like the rest of the team is without talent). Rooney will be the best player on the pitch today, by far, as he will be against Algeria and Slovenia, and probably in all but 1 or 2 matches they play.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jun 12, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

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