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Clint Dempsey tells it like it is; the topic is referees

Clint Dempsey says when referees let you hold, you gotta hold -- because the other guys sure will be.

PRETORIA, South AfricaSo everybody knows that one referee’s decision can massively influence a match. Heck, an entire tournament. Exhibit A from U.S.-Slovenia is still being debated in coffee shops and around water coolers from sea to shining sea in our beloved United States.

And ain’t that a kick in the head in itself? Imagine that, even the soccer haters and the Xenophobic far right can get their blood boiling when then see the pictures; three or "our boys" in Shawshank-worthy strangleholds while the referee adjudges that one of our good, sweet, clean and surely virtuous lads gets whistled for infraction. Oh, the injustice!

But we’ve chewed on that leather strap for a while now.

Let’s talk a bit about how poor refereeing throughout the course of a match (rather than just one colossally blown call) can ugly up the entire proceedings.

Listen to what Clint Dempsey was saying yesterday from the makeshift press room near cow central in suburban Pretoria, a.k.a. the placid Irene Farm across from the U.S. lodge. USA Today’s Kelly Whiteside asked Dempsey to describe the mayhem, madness and NC-17 rated embraces that would stir a Don’t Ask-Don’t Tell debate going on inside a penalty area in some of these matches. And who better to ask than Demspey. (As my man Shawn Francis at MLS Insider Blog says, let’s face it, Big Tex is the U.S. player most likely to have a warrant out.)

(Click forward for Dempsey's diatribe...)

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"You have to find a way to get free.

 

"If someone has their arms around me, I’m going to sit there and say ‘OK, that’s fine.’ I’m going to try to bust out of that and get in position to try to score a goal. If they let that type of thing go on, then that’s how you play. If the ref is calling it tight, then you’re not going to do that. You have to adapt to the game and that’s what we’ll do."

 

Translation, it’s big boy soccer in there. If they grab a nip, you better grab two in return. If they throw some Karate Kid at you, you had better hit ‘em back with some Jackie Chan.

You keep pouring until somebody says "when." And it’s up to the man in the middle to say "when."

That’s the point. When referees don’t say "when," the game suffers. And crap like Friday happens. Because once the clutching, pushing, grabbing, biting, obstructing and mangling ensues, you’d need 360-degree video technology and a U.N. tribunal to sort out the guilty from the falsely accused. 

"When they allow players to hold, there’s going to be a lot of pushing and shoving going on," Dempsey said. "Before this tournament, they told us that any type of holding on a corner is a penalty, any type of grabbing around a player is a penalty. Then we get to the game, and that’s not what’s going on."

(Well, it is if you’re an Italian, and you decide to fall near goal against a team that, well, let’s face it, you’d probably score a bunch against anyway so you may as well draw an undeserved spot shot. A team like, say, New Zealand. But I digress.)

Do go on, Big Tex: "You have to adapt," Dempsey said. "And at the same time, you can see why a team does that, because everybody has to figure out a way to win. You have to do what you think is best. Obviously the closer you are to your man, the less likely he’s gonna have a good chance on goal. So that’s just the way is."

In all fairness, referees here have done pretty well at eliminating (or at least minimizing) a lot of the goal area shenanigans on restarts. Only in selected matches has feeble match management turned its head to the unlawful and the awful.

The United States just happened to find itself in one of those matches.

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Absolutely.

You have to play to the ref’s rhythm. Hell, football refs get instant replay and still stink the place up with their decisions. There was certainly a US player blocking a Slovenian player allowing Edu to run free behind him. The ref just happened to either ONLY see that (and not the three text-book rugby tackles being dealt the other way) or he felt it was the only foul that directly interefered with what subsequently occurred.

Of course, if we were allowed to ask the damn oficials after the game we wouldn’t so often be left in that awful state of frustration following baffling decisions…

by rudi on Jun 21, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree

In those penalty area scrums, FIFA should require refs to identify who committed a foul by pointing at them, so we at least know what to debate.

by Detroit Exile on Jun 22, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

missing the larger point

So it is easy to look at one call and be cynical, but long before that I was worried about this official. Robbie Findley gets hit in the face with the ball, it also hits his shoulder as it deflects, and not only is he called for a handball, but given a yellow card for it. Then you simply have to watch the rest of the match and you will see what clearly looks like favoritism on calls made by Koman Coulibaly.

FIFA’s refusal to address the issue, and instead of doing as they said they would “send him home” he was available this weekend as a back up official. Based on his past, both the level of experience and the controversy, you have to believe that Koman was either put into a no-win situation that he was unprepared and unqualified for, or that FIFA has once again played politics by putting in an official based on his race rather than his qualifications. Both are unfair, and while so much attention has focused on one play (which was an awful one) but the entire of the match was officiated at a level that would be an embarrassment for even MLS .

by denz on Jun 22, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Based

on his RACE??

Do explain. I’ll be fascinated to hear…

by rudi on Jun 22, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Political correctness

Mali is part of Africa, so more is nationality based. You can’t look at his background and say that he was more qualified than officials from the US, so why was he selected. Let’s cut the BS, these games were awarded to South Africa based on political correctness more than their ability to host the games, one only has to look at the reports of 20-30% empty seats to know that. It was a feel good decision for FIFA, and appointing officials from nations based on political correctness has cost the integrity of the World Cup. Yes one official can ruin the whole tournament, should the US get a draw and not advance, it would be based on (in part) the officiating of one person.

There is no standard by which FIFA has made him explain himself, their decision not to use him, speaks volumes about their wanting to avoid more controversy. You only have to look at his background as an official to see that his qualifications alone would not warrant him being in charge of a World Cup match, so if he wasn’t chosen based on his qualifications why was he chosen? I have to believe to allow there to be African officials at the World Cup- there are 3 who FIFA says are qualified to be head officials, one has to wonder how this guy got on the list. Heck, I have never seen Kevin Stott do that bad of a job.

by denz on Jun 22, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ref

must come from a continent not represented by either team, That’s not political correctness, that’s the rules.

As for SA being handed the tournament, that’s more as a repayment following support from the African bloc within FIFA on previous votes by involved footballing bodies. Politics, yes; political “correctness” (a stupid, made-up term used by the intolerant and impolite): no.

by rudi on Jun 22, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favoritism argument doesn't fly

You mention Robbie Findley’s yellow and the rest of the mach and decry “favoritism.” You do, however, fail to mention that right at the start the US should have been playing one man down because of our man Dempsey throwing an elbow, which is a red-card offense. Coulibaly did the US a huge favor there. I can’t see them coming back one man down. Yes the referee was inconsistent, erratic even. That doesn’t mean he was biased.

 And you should be extremely careful about using his race in your argument. I’ve seem howlers by refs of all races and all confederations. Anyone remember the 3-yellow-card fiasco in the last WC? An English EPL ref, Graham Poll (and a good one, too). And the Brazil v. Ivory Coast “biceps of God” game this WC? A French ref, Stéphane Lannoy. Conversely in this WC I’ve seen great refereeing from the Saudi ref Khalil Al Ghamdi, the Japanese ref Yuichi Nishimura, the Guatemalan ref Carlos Batres, and others, with no obvious correlation between performance and race, or performance and confederation.

by DrWeevil on Jun 22, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the corollary is...

…that we should stop bitching at referees that try to keep things close. I’ve found myself very frustrated at some of the ESPN announcers (Robbie Mustoe, for example) ranting about how a yellow card is not deserved after witnessing foul after foul disrupt play. Sorry, but if there is persistent infringing, what is a referee to do but to get out the yellow? A good example was the Sebia v. Germany match, where Miroslav Klose got himself tossed for a second yellow. Both were deserved, but the second in particular left me bemused. What was Klose thinking? (Presumably he can?) Already carrying a yellow, and knowing the referee was getting card-happy, and having no chance at all at the ball, near midfield, he went in hacking at his opponent anyway. That’s either just plain dumb or cynical and I’m fed up with people going after the referee in such a case.

Dempsey and Davis are right. Refs need to clamp down on the constant fouling. Much of it is quite intentional, done to intimidate and to disrupt, and as such it’s not enough merely to call the foul, as this only rewards the fouling team. The referee at some point needs to get the card out. So we can’t have it both ways. The only way to stop the shenanigans is to penalize them, meaning not with just a foul call but with cards and penalties. And we need to stop bitching about referees that do this.

One more thing: the assistant referees have been getting their offside calls spot-on. I can’t recall a good goal ruled out by a bad offside call, and even those where some commentators have complained about the scoring player being offside were extremely close, and the rule says doubt should favor to the attacker.

by DrWeevil on Jun 22, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed

it’s been a pretty good tournament as far as referreeing goes, with only the Seychelles fella really standing out as a bit mental.

by rudi on Jun 22, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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