US Soccer and a better World Cup: it's not just athletes
We’re all still stinging from the
As we look for solutions to improve the game, let me remind everyone of this favorite axiom of mine: show me the simplest solution to a complicated problem, and I’ll show you the wrong solution.
Sometimes we offer up simple solutions because it’s easier than diving into the nitty gritty of it all. Let’s face it: tackling complicated issues takes energy and commitment. Most of us don’t have the energy or commitment to get the damn car washed regularly, much less really grapple with big thinky problems.
So, let me eliminate one quick fixer that always gets a spin on the wheel of U.S. Soccer fixes: "We need better athletes."
Yes, it would certainly help to a point. Speed kills. Height and might can be right. But it’s hardly the be-all, end-all, I promise.
If you look at the
Robbie Findley was supposedly on the team for his speed (even if I never saw him pull away from anyone in
You think being better athletes would help the
You think a better athlete will finally create the difference-making striker the
What about playmakers? The
Again, better athletes would hardly be a bad thing. But don’t fool yourself. This is about so much more. It’s about teaching kids the right way from very early ages, and about identifying players and nurturing them the right way. It’s about solving problems on the field and first touches that create space.
I’d love to better developmental mechanisms within U.S. Soccer and MLS. Somewhere in there is the answer … not just siphoning off better athletes from football and basketball.
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Ball skills are the biggest gap
The top tier of sides at the World Cup are simply playing a different game than the US plays. Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, the Netherlands…I see them the way Spanish basketball fans probably saw the Dream Team back in 1992. The Netherlands’ first goal against Cameroon, which IIRC was a kind of 3-person passing game on the edge of the box that ended with a feed to van Persie for a right-footer between the GK’s legs…the Netherlands puts together something like that every single match, even if the shot doesn’t always go in. It was very nice, but nothing remarkable for the Oranje. If the US scored a goal that way, my jaw would hit the floor. Pure first touches, sequences of no-look passes that hit the target in stride…American players virtually never do that stuff.
It’s also noticeable on defense. When Portugal gets the ball near, or even in, their penalty area, they feel perfectly comfortable holding it or passing it to a teammate, rather than just blasting it out for a throw-in. That kind of skill from backs is one of the ways that those teams dominate possession — you get one chance to score, and if you cough the ball up, that’s it. Those guys are on the attack. Okay, maybe Portugal isn’t on the attack, but you get my point.
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And he’s a pretty good athlete- but Robben is the fastest player on the pitch for that team. The USA doesn’t have horrible ball skills, but we don’t seem to make the simple passes, what’s called the “final pass.” We have had some fantastic build up play, just the final pass has eluded us.
This whole thing about “Athletic” is misleading- what makes you an exceptional athlete for football is different than for American football or Baseball (perhaps for baseball the term athlete is itself misleading- long armed fatboy is far more accurate). Some players, Luis Fabiano and Maicon are the current examples, are very athletic and that’s a big part of their game. Even a player like Tevez is considered more of an “athlete” and athletic player than Forlan, who is more of a creator/ classic #10. The definition of athlete is different. In fact, the goal of the Everton Samba Academies was to create players who maximized both athleticism and ball skills.
Americans need to recognize that the type of athlete that is optimal for football is far different than that in other sports- one of the most ideal athletes that the sport produced is Dennis Bergkamp (second fastest on the Arsenal team, fantastic touch, great measurables and intangibles), and he wouldn’t fit well into any American sport.
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Agreed Steve
Heard a well respected sports-talk guy from my area saying this exact thing the other day, “The U.S. needs better athletes to go further.” I told the friend I was with that I completely disagreed and that we need better technical ability and first touches. Yes, athletes will help but we have athletes, we need to be better technically.
Good piece Steve.
by I need more Esteban on Jun 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
With Football, Skill comes before Athleticism
Skill is a tough thing to develop, of course some people are naturally talented. The point where the gap begins to widen between US players and European, South American players is technical skills. If you watch some of the better strikers in the World Cup the reason they are so successful is they are able to literally maneuver themselves out of tough spots by outsmarting the defender and being able to outsmart them, in other words, they are mentally prepared to be two steps ahead. Now that is just one of components of being a great player, but being able to take good shots is also vital. Ball handling skills, shooting, and dribbling are where it gets tough for American players, many of these players are pushed into full games in their childhood without honing these essential skills.
Neglecting skill development is really one of the biggest reasons why we aren’t able to keep up with the Juggernauts (Brazil, Argentina, Germany, etc.)
Another amen here. I find myself yelling at the TV when the talking heads are saying we need better athletes. Our speed/agility/strength is just fine, it seems to me we never get outrun or outworked on the field, we get outplayed. The most amazing part of the Donovan goal was the buildup, as it was unfolding i just knew at some point an errant touch was going to break down the attack like always.
"teaching kids the right way from very early ages..."
That’s the crux of it. American youth soccer has the nasty tendency of falling into two extremes. When the kids are really young, we don’t teach them anything, simply tossing the ball out there, and a herd of kids surround it and tromp up and down the field, rarely passing, never spacing out, and learning nothing.
When a kid shows promise, many times they’ll get shuttled into “elite” programs, that travel around playing tons of games, but never get the space to experiment because their youth coaches are most concerned with wins, not overall development.
Both of these stunt the soccer brain, and both are eneimies of joga bonito.
Kinda agree but not really...
I would say your first part about the kids is actually the opposite. We need to let the kids “just play” more often so they can:
- experience many different situations/positions on the pitch,
- have the freedom to experiment with tricks/tactics that a coach would typically frown upon,
- learn how to beat a defender because it’s fun to make your friend look silly and
- find out what kind of player they are…do they have a knack for scoring? able to make the “killer pass”?
These are what jogo bonito is all about.
As for the elite programs and a focus on winning, I couldn’t agree more. This actually drives coaches to find “athletes” as physical growth can be such a factor, especially at young ages. Bigger and faster than the other 10-year olds? You’re a striker. Good ball skills and fast but not the tall, you are a midfielder. It’s a problem.
It's a two part issue
First one is the athlete excuse. While this does come off as an excuse there is validity. The best athletes in the United States play football or basketball, not soccer.
The other problem is that this team is the first one that grew up in a revamped youth program. When I played soccer (traveling/high school) the coaches weren’t world class. The traveling coach was a parent of a player and the HS coach played in a D3 school in college. We’re finally seeing Claudio Reyna and Tab Ramos running youth programs. This will improve the future teams.
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We’re finally seeing Claudio Reyna and Tab Ramos running youth programs. This will improve the future teams.
This seems like a really big point to me. I’ll take everyone’s word that we have the athletes to compete, but having youth soccer programs that are comparable to other youth sports will help stem the tide of physical talent that goes to football, basketball, and baseball.
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See part of the problem leading physical talent away from soccer is the paychecks/notoriety of the other sports. But I think most of us who played soccer growing up had a parent as the coach. The training aspects need to catch up to the rest of the world. There’s no debating that a guy like Kobe Bryant wouldn’t have been a fantastic soccer player if the paychecks were similar.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 29, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
paychecks
i actually thought that the top-tier soccer players of the world get payed a lot more than basketball players for instance
"I believe that basketball, when a certain level of unselfish team play is realized, can serve as a kind of metaphor for ultimate cooperation. It is a sport where success, as symbolized by the championship, requires that the dictates of the community prevail over selfish personal impulses. An exceptional player is simply one point on a five-pointed star. Statistics—such as points, rebounds, or assists per game—can never explain the remarkable interaction that takes place on a successful pro team."
~ Bill Bradley
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It’s comparable but only recently (Europe wasn’t there for Americans/FIFA rule in the 80s/early 90s only allowing 3 international players per team). But the ability to be a star at home and in front of friends/family is also a factor. With the world cup showing and the ratings I’d expect our teams to have more well trained athletes in the future. Jozy Altidore is just the beginning.
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by Matthew Roth on Jun 29, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
we need a "soccer culture"
“That is not athletic ability; that’s the work of a well-trained soccer brain.” You get a well-trained brain for a sport if the local culture for it reinforces what is right and wrong, and a lot of that these days comes from media.
So #1, you need folks to start watching good soccer more regularly than every 4 years. Anouncers, well, the good ones, teach the game while annnouncing the game pointing out what was done well (or not), what should have been done, etc. Watch this regularly and you start picking it up, you take that knowledge to the pitch (where others also are picking it up watching), you all reinforce when playing with one another, and so on.
Think about that when watching baseball or football and notice how they teach the game. Then watch an MLS match…my general reaction listening to most announcers for MLS (not all) is “OMG, we got a long way to go to catch up with the rest of the world.” And we do.
vote for soccer culture
english coaches who have influence in Dallas (Tx.) joke that if 4 kids are playing soccer in a field, an adult comes along to organize them and proclaim themselves commish… creativity is lacking.. the soccer system in US is set up by too many parents wanting trophies… kids need to be playing in parks and no parents, uniforms, snack-lists, etc. involved… NBA stars are made in rec centers and outdoor courts on dirt in Indiana to asphalt in NY… it’s sure not the AAU summer leagues that creates NBA stars.. it only “showcases” them as the team managers like to say
by dmcnabb on Jun 29, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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very well said.
Growing up I was a pretty good basketball player with not a huge amount of athletic ability. I got good because I played all the time, I was always dribbling a ball or shooting on a goal when friends were just sitting around shooting the shit. I learned a lot from camps and coaches but much of it was on my own in the neighborhood. Soccer needs this.
by I need more Esteban on Jun 30, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Just watched Spain dismantle Portugal.
And I’d bet 3/4 of the positions on the US team are held by better athletes than the Spaniards. Look at David Villa. Athlete? Nah. But he can sure finish. Iniesta? Shrimp! But he’ll slice open a defense like a can-opener opens a can. Xavi? ditto. And so on. So they were able to starve Portugal of the ball and make their lead stand. It was a masterful display of skill, not athleticism.
This is thanks to the “soccer brain” Mr. Davis is talking about, and it comes from skills honed over thousands of hours. Leo Messi thinks so fast the rest of the players might as well be practice cones.
I think the problem we have is that we have a hyper-organized “development” system where playing and winning games and being an “athlete” are at a premium. But when you play in organized leagues you don’t get much touch on the ball, or much latitude to experiment with creativity. The first time someone attempts a cheeky backheel that results on loss of possession the coach will yell at or bench the player.
Kids need to play. They need to play often and without much adult interference or imposed structure. When I lived in Brazil we would go out and play, not an adult in sight. 3 on 3, 4 on 4, and so on. Those who were full of themselves would try all kinds of outrageous stuff. Even those of us who weren’t that good got a lot of ball-time. That’s why Brazil is so good. And Argentina. And Spain. Kids get to play a lot. Incidentally I think this is what happens with basketball in the inner cities. Lots and lots of play time. It’s not that white men can’t jump, it’s that black kids play a lot
I put my 4 year old in kiddie kick here in MD, and I got some one on one time with the guy who ran it one day and he simply stated that practice is the answer. Most of the time the kids were out there practicing with the ball at their feet, and there was very little actual game time (a short match at the end of every session). Training is where its at for kids and as everyone above has said, once a kid is any good, hes jumped up to where they play too many games and theres not enough practice time.
It's a Great Philosophy
Training is the best way to raise great players, all of the youth in Brazil is literally playing the game recreationally at a young age which is why they are that much more prepared when they start competing.
by TerpsAllTheWay on Jun 29, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Knowledge of $$$
When I was a soccer playing kid, (80s) there was no professional soccer league and I had a dim awareness of foreign leagues. Now I see school groups walking by (a lot, live near DC) and I see the kids with Brazil, Italian, Barcelona etc. jerseys. Kids are now aware of the big leagues, aware of their own MLS and know that there is money to be made in soccer. This will make a difference.
Respectfully disagree
Our problem is not lack of athletes, or poaching from other sports (yes 20 yrs ago — not now). Our problem is from the top. With respect to Donovan, etc. this team was never about individuals. Its success came because it was a team when it counted. The second we lost that, we lost all. Why were we playing long ball w/ 20 minutes to go while down to Ghana? What the hell were Johnson and Beasley doing taking up squad space at all? (And before you say “experience” and “leadership”, I believe they have proven my point there many times over the years).
A fish rots from the head.
YOU ARE ALL WRONG
we need to take more dives
no, we accounted for that
see Germany and “soccer brain”
Demsey and Donovan
That’s what we need more of. More D’s.
And the biggest D we were missing DEFENSE!
I wish the US fans could have gotten the “DE-FENSE” chat going, but to be fair, the other team would have already socred after the US turned it over by the time any chant could start.
The myth of speed
As usual, Steve nails this one. The NY Times ran an article saying that Kobe Bryant says we need more players like Kobe Bryant, and I kept thinking to myself, “yes, because the success rate of 6’ 6” soccer players with big feet is so amazing." Occasionally you see a guy like Peter Crouch or Jan Koller do okay, but big tall guys generally don’t do well, no matter how athletically gifted.
As a defender I hate it when I face a guy who is really fast, but pure speed is overrated unless it is combined with both mental speed and a good touch. As one coach once put it, “speed is great, but if you are going to the wrong place on the field, you just get there faster.”
heres the thing......
odds are the US is never going to become as technically sound one-on-one, with the ball, or passing the ball, the USA doesnt have the right developmental leags for it…and theres a chance we never will be as sound as brazil, spain, italy, holland, germany, argentina, etc… or good enough in a 16-team tournament to beat 3 elite teams, that takes more then luck…all elite countries play their style of soccer to maximize their strengths, the 1 thing that USA soccer has is that they can consistantly put an athelete on the feild that no other country can, or that no other country has ever seen before on a feild

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