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Color me jealous; serious Euro 2012 qualifying underway

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I am feeling very jealous of Europe today.

No, it’s not because of the superior dairy products. Nor the café society, extensive high-speed rail or the kick-ass beers of Belgium and the Bavarian vicinity – although those are certainly good causes of raging jealousy.

It’s because another round of critical qualifying matches is underway. Already! Teams just got off the plane, back from South Africa, just the other day!

So it’s a chance for supporters to monitor real matches, passing, trapping and shooting with actual meaning. The nations of Europe are attempting to qualify for the Euro 2002 tournament in Poland and Ukraine.

That means this is serious business – because getting to the 16-team tournament really means something. Over here, we look at Portugal’s 4-4 tie with little Cyprus, shake our heads a little at such a goofy result, and then go back to worrying about toxic eggs and what’s for lunch.

But not in Lisbon and Porto and other Portuguese cities, where they must be falling over backward in disgust at this result. And fear, too! The fear factor is that Denmark and Norway are in Portugal’s group, which means there’s real competition for the top spot or a favorable runner-up spot.

Because no one wants to be left behind when the party starts in Warsaw and Kiev two summers hence.

Meanwhile, back here we have …uh … well, when does that CONCACAF Gold Cup start?

(Read on for more …)

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See my point here? They have real matches. These qualifiers are serious stuff.  They are already talking about “must-win games” in France after that shocking result against Belarus.

Meanwhile, over here, we’re prepping for a friendly against Colombia – no disrespect intended for the upcoming proceedings in ChesterPenn., where the Americans will face the South Americans in October.  Sorry, but that match just doesn’t have the same kind of juice. It’s a friendly.

It’s not a rockin’ stadium in Greece, where the home supporters were stunned to see their side draw with Georgia. It can’t compete in terms of drama with Stade de France outside Paris, where the home side proved that, yes, things could indeed get worse. Somehow.

No one around here will talk about the individual performances next month outside Philadelphia the way they will inEngland after Friday’s 4-0 result over Bulgaria, or the way the proud Scots will talk up the heroes of a meaningful result, a scoreless draw in Lithuania.

They won’t dissect the bad performances the way they will in Belgium, where a good, young team fell Brussels toGermany by a narrow 1-0 score.

There’s not much we can do about it, but over here we’re just stuck with very little in terms of meaningful matches for the next two years, until the next World Cup qualifying cycle begins sometime in the summer of 2012.

Next year’s Gold Cup? Meh.

I know some people get fired up over it. I just have a hard time. After all, when we think about the real significance of Gold Cup, what are we talking about?

I’ll tell you what: we’re just trying to sort out who can and who can’t cut it when we get to the more important matches: the World Cup qualifiers.

Yep. I’m workin’ some serious jealousy today. 

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The only solace

is the start of college football.

by the12thman11 on Sep 4, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Booo Boooo

There are meaningful games in MLS as the race for the Supporters Shield involves 4 teams right now (three from the West).

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by Dave Clark on Sep 4, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

the topic of the day is national teams ...

… my interest in MLS and such on the domestic league front is well-chronicled

by Steve Davis on Sep 4, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If his solace is college football

he’s missing some good soccer

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by Dave Clark on Sep 5, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

MLS

isn’t on in the morning, has been going on all summer, and Houston isn’t doing well. So yeah college football for me this weekend.

by the12thman11 on Sep 5, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That works

Life is not ZERO sum. I understand that.

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by Dave Clark on Sep 5, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This Gold Cup Matters

As the winner gets to go to the Confederations Cup. But the only games that will matter will be the ones between the USA and Mexico.

It is the next one that is a major yawner.

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by Dave Clark on Sep 4, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I really hope we send our A team this time, unlike in 2009. Until we send our A team each tournament, it won’t mean as much (much like the FIBA World Championships for basketball)

by JoshuaR on Sep 4, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Steve:

Would you prefer it if the USA had to go through qualifying for the Gold Cup, thus adding at least a handful of meaningful (albeit lopsided from a talent standpoint) matches to the process?

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Sep 4, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Gold Cup is irrelevant

The Gold Cup only matters when we play Mexico in the Final and Marquez gets sent off, other than that it does not matter. We don’t play any quality teams.

Our qualifying is irrelevant as well. With CONCACAF somehow guaranteed three spots its almost impossible for us not to qualify so there really is no pressure.

The reason European teams do so well at the World Cup besides having loads of really good talent is they are perpetually playing meaningful and high pressure games. They are always in a qualifying cycle unlike the US. There is no two year wilderness period.

Unlike the US and Mexico, European teams can’t afford to drop too many points or they are left behind. In Europe the top two teams only qualify from groups containing six or less in some cases where in CONCACAF three automatically qualify and a fourth gets a playoff spot. France and Portugal are already behind the eight ball in qualifying because the teams they dropped points to were supposed to be automatic. Mexico went through like three coaches dropped points left and right and still qualified comfortably. You can’t do that in Europe.

When people were trying to explain why South American teams were doing so well in the early stages of the World Cup some people said that it was their long and brutal qualifying cycle that prepared them. They have an 18 game cycle that takes four yearscomplete. While there qualifying is long its not high pressure ’cause 6 teams qualify out of 10. So you can mess around for half the games and still qualify comfortably like Argentina did.

Also the European teams get to a play in a tournament that is tougher and better (from a football standpoint) than the World Cup.

There was a firefight!!!!

by ThePhenomenon on Sep 5, 2010 2:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Euro World Cup Qualifying actually isn't that tough

Since all the good teams are spread so thin in their single group format they face 2-4 minnows with really either a good or decent team and that’s it.

Their friendlies are only in the continent usually too.

The USA faced more top notch competition in the year prior to the World Cup than most of Europe. Although, making the Confederations Cup really helped that.

If Europe moved to a Double Group format their teams would likely be more prepared, and notice the slow start by Europe in the last World Cup? It won’t get better in Brazil.

And the its really a shame that CONCACAF is only a 3.5 team region, as it has been outperforming Asia and Africa for the past 4 cycles, and yet they both get 4 at worse. All three of these regions should get four straight up.

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by Dave Clark on Sep 5, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Timing is tough

If you look at the schedule for the European clubs. They are just getting started. With the format of the MLS and the Mexican clubs ( I don’t know about the rest of the region. ) I think that any more important competitions would be too much. If you just take MLS. It is the home stretch. If you take Europe, then it is the beginning of a long season. Yes, it is fun. Not feasable in the US or Concacaf. Gold Cup has to be our glory. Nothing we can do about the fact that only 4-5 teams can truly compete.

by Camnehem on Sep 7, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

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