Quick reaction on Marcos Mondaini’s suspension and fine
Colorado’s Brian Mullan gets a 10-game suspension for breaking Steve Zakuani’s leg.
Chivas USA’s Marcos Mondaini gets four games (plus $1,500) for breaking Javier Morales’ leg.
Conclusion: Mullan’s foul was exactly 2.5 times worse. Or, perhaps the disciplinary committee was 2.5 times more pissed off the day it met to consider the Mullan issue. I mean, heavy traffic on the way to the office can do that to some people. At any rate, we have assigned a numerical value to the broken legs and terrible tackles, so there’s that.
Clearly, the calculus of all this isn’t so cut and dried. As I like to say, this ain’t checkers, it’s chess, and there are a lot of factors at work here, including the front end of an extended campaign to reduce thuggish play in MLS.
But MLS didn’t get this one right.
I think it’s hard to say whether they got it right with Mullan. As I said before, MLS needed to set an example. The league needed to demonstrate that it was serious about clamping down on the overly physical crap, on the kind of potentially injurious actions that can jeopardize careers and dent the overall quality of MLS matches.
So, if that’s the big plan, then I don’t have a problem with Mullan’s 10-game suspension. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, as they say.
But Mullan’s lengthy suspension loses some of its punch when you don’t throw the book at the next guy, too. You make an example of Mullan, then you let the next guy off lightly? What message is that sending to those who would do harm?
I really believed that Mullan’s 10-game ban (damn near a third of the season) and $10,000 fine would make MLS players think twice about launching themselves in reckless, overly aggressive ways. A second punitive volley from the heavy artillery would drive home the point. Instead, the secretive MLS disciplinary committee that bloodied Mullan swats Mondaini with a newspaper and then heads out for lunch. Tex-Mex, anyone?
Mondaini’s tackle was stupid. But it didn’t appear as reckless, and it wasn’t born of frustration the way Mullan’s was. So, it didn’t need to be 10-games … but it needed to be a little closer. I’d say, something in the 6-8 range would have been more appropriate.
The danger of Mullan’s 10-game suspension was always the precedent. I’ve said and written that several times now. I guess I just didn’t consider the wishy-washy factor. That is, you’re not really setting a precedent, per se, if you don’t mind being seen as unfair and inconsistent.
Good thing they protect the identity of the disciplinary committee. Because I suspect those guys would be getting beaten up pretty good in the blogosphere right now.
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Weak sauce
Should have been 6-8
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by johnjahafanclub on May 12, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
weak indeed
6-8 is what I was looking for.
Since the committee is anonymous, hopefully MLS is getting an earful.
Agree.
6-8 games, similar fine. Now players will tailor their violence. So long as they make sure it doesn’t look malicious (whatever the heck that means) there’s not much consequence from hurting another player.
Also, as another commenter to an earlier post on this subject said, what will the disciplinary committee do when it’s a David Beckham or Thierry Henry doing this? Don’t know about Henry, but we’ve already witnessed Beckham chop down folks. What if Josh Wolff had been seriously injured by Beckham’s reckless challenge during the earlier DC v. LA game? I wouldn’t hold my breath that he’d get the same justice Mullan or even Mondaini got.
Seems can't win to me
Isn’t the committee in a bit of a (admittedly self-made) bind? There seems to be general murmuring that Mullan’s suspension – while certailny message sending – was perhaps a bit harsh. So the next time around, the committee has a rethink…
In this case, there seems to be a consensus that the tackle wasn’t as bad and wasn’t malicious. If the committee heard the claims that Mullan’s suspension was too harsh, it seems natural they might change course and dial down this one. Four games is still a serious suspension and $1,500 isn’t exactly pocket change for a guy making $45,000. I think in context this is still a sufficient punishment.
Everyone wants the game cleaned up, and everyone wants MLS to sort out their disciplinary system. But there’s this knee-jerk reaction after every incident to break it down like it’s a federal RICO case. A 6-8 game suspension for a lesser challenge, on top of people crying foul on the Mullan suspension, would be rather harsh.
There’s going to be a moving target while the committee tries to find consistency. MLS officiating and discipline isn’t going to change overnight – but it’s clear they’re trying to get it sorted out.
Maybe they just want to show themselves as wildly all over the place
And say, “OK, you want to play dirty, go ahead, but you might get a $10 fine and you might get a 50 game suspension.” You just never know. Reminds me of Mad Max III.
The issues
So the suspension due to precedent should be more. That being said, even the 4 game suspension should be enough to dissuade players from committing reckless tackles. However, if MLS refs on the field aren’t going to calm the game down, MLS can issue all the suspensions it wants, doesn’t keep players from getting hurt.
by Patrick MacDonald on May 13, 2011 2:06 AM EDT reply actions
My Take
Steve, I’m fine with a 4 game suspension. Could have been more but the circumstances were a bit different.
Here’s the real key in my mind. The next time someone slides reckless into the back of, say…., Andy Najar…or Thierry Henry….or Ken Cooper. And there’s no injury and no card is awarded…what does the disciplinary committee do then? The league should make it clear that in post-game review, if it sees a play as dangerous—even if no injury results—fines and sit-downs will be “awarded”. And to me, that’s the real precedent issue. B/c these tackles have happened before in MLS. I think we’re seeing more of them b/c the season is more competitive (so teams play more defensively and harder and a lack of skill results in stupid/reckless tackles). If “only” 5-7 skilled players get hurt this way and guys like Millen and Mondaini get suspended, most players will think “it (suspension) won’t happen to me” b/c those are pretty good odds. But if the league ends up suspending 10-30 players b/c of reckless tackles (even if no-one was hurt and there was no card on the play at the time), that will really get a message. Coaches will coach differently. Players will play differently. And that will matter more than if Mondaini had been given 4 more games to work on his tan and golf game.

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