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Taking U.S. soccer establishment to task over venue selections

Fans were cheering their U.S. team at Ford Field on Tuesday, but they sure weren't clapping for that little ragamuffin of a field.

About Saturday’s U.S.-Panama clash: Will we see the same American center back combo as Bob Bradley’s boys clash with stubborn little ol’ Panama? Will fast Freddy Adu get into the 18? Will Tim Howard be a regular badass in goal, or a super badass? I don’t have answers to these vexing questions.

But I know this for darn sure:

The field at Raymond James Stadium will be far superior to that beleaguered little ragamuffin of a pitch the United States and Canada had to endure on Tuesday.

For more on the game itself check out my match preview at SI.com.

As for the recent fields on which U.S. men have been ask to play: Seriously? For the love of Carl the Groundskeeper, is our soccer establishment around here still in the third grade in venue selection? That field Tuesday in Detroit was a disaster! It looked like I do after a Vegas bender, scraggly, dehydrated, all beat up and damn close to death. The Washington Post’s Steven Goff said it looked like it had been in a knife fight. (Good one, dude!)

As far as selecting venues that require a temporary grass field to be laid over artificial turf or (worse, apparently) concrete, it’s high time that everyone just scratch that off the list of options.

It drags down the games. Even on the better fakey fields, balls don’t bounce right and roll too slowly. On the worst of them, there really is a player safety issue.

Star-divide

U.S. players and coaches, after years of playing nice, muffling their disdain and mostly just mumbling under their breath about it, are starting to speak out. And rightly so.

CONCACAF gets the blame for the Ford Field fiasco. Officials for the regional organizing body selected the venues. But they get some guidance from S.U.M., Major League Soccer’s marketing arm.

And U.S. Soccer selected the recent site for U.S.-Spain: Gillette Stadium. That’s an issue in itself. No venue has hosted more U.S. matches over the last 10 years, not even the Home Depot Center outside Los Angeles. And the team is based there!

The Kraft family counts Gillette Stadium among its holdings. U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati is also president of Kraft Soccer. See the conflict? The relationship is just too cozy; even if there’s nothing improper at work, appearances should dictate that U.S. soccer not make Foxborough the unofficial home of U.S. Soccer. Sorry, boys. You just gotta be better than that.

But there they were, two weeks ago, spending about $150,000 to lay yet another slow grass field over the artificial turf so they could get their Gillette fix. By the way, the justification for charging fans to see the final U.S. and Spain practices was that it costs quite a few Ben Franklins to attract a team of Spain’s quality. Fair enough.

But you can’t have it both ways. You can’t be tacky and charge to watch a practice (“We’re talking about practice!” Preach it, Allen Iverson.) but then pony up big bucks to install a grass field, too.

Maybe there was a time when this was part of the deal. Perhaps it made more sense to play these matches inside big stadiums, with temporary grass fields installed where needed. Well, there was also a time when we were all wearing beepers. That time has damn sure come and gone.

There are plenty of suitable venues with proper grass fields. I do understand that securing facilities can be tricky; stadium availability, costs, coordinating team schedules, etc., can make for some tough calculus. That said, the market is what it is. At some point, it’s just business – and as the “clients” U.S. Soccer and CONCACAF have choices.

A major point to consider here is the important development of all these great soccer stadiums. Livestrong Sporting Park opened gloriously just last night, and that baby is a $200 million peach!

The U.S.-Canada match drew 28,000-plus. (That’s not a bad draw, by the way, for a U.S. match on a Tuesday night against a non-marquee opponent.) But the question is this: with several MLS venues now available that come close to accommodating that number, why go to Ford Field?  Red Bull Arena, a fantastic soccer facility not far east of Ford Field, holds 25,000.

The U.S. Soccer establishment needs to get it together on this one.

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Couldn't have said it better myself Steve

it’s disgraceful and it needs to change now

Win or lose, we'll always be there for you.

by johnjahafanclub on Jun 10, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree wholeheartedly

If it is an issue of location for the other teams fans to get there as well, Seattles field woulda been perfect for that number, heck the region woulda probably drew a sell out (I don’t like them Sounder boys but that area loves its soccer). Like you said the Pink Cows….excuse me, Red Bulls stadium is a little east of that and holds 25,000 or if you don’t like the slums I am sure the wonderful city of Philly woulda been more then happy to pack PPL Park. For Panama, doesn’t Dallas have a decent Stadium? It’s a closer venue for their fans and it would probably sell out, and lets face it, Dallas would like seeing it’s stands more then half filled for once.
U.S. soccer needs to pick better places else the fans on TV will not be able to see the true spirit of the sport, the supporters, having the time of their life which in turn is going to make the beautiful game less appealing.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

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by Talon Talent on Jun 10, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Quest Field's field? Really?

I agree with the basic idea – I was one of the 28-plus grand there, and it was obvious in the second half that there were parts of the pitch that were cut up and borderline unplayable: lumps of loose turf placed back in the divots, seams that’d gotten turned by an unlucky toe, that sort of thing. And the ball never played properly in the first place. During the warmups for the first game, it was landing dead, like it was hitting a puddle of mud. Ugh.

But Seattle? Have you watched a game from Qwest this year? That carpet has apparently worn out, because it’s playing like 1974 Astroturf – rock-hard and lightning fast. IT BLOWS. I swear the Sounders brass looks a little embarrassed every time the camera finds them mid-game. So I’m saying yes, the temporary stuff sucks, but its suckitude can be exceeded, yea verily, by the fake stuff: Can I get a witness from the congregation?

by Sean Spence on Jun 10, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be honest I was even thinking of the field. I was more appalled at the amount of empty seats for a USMNT game. What can I say, i have a hard time understanding why everybody else can’t see the beauty of the game. So I was actually thinking closer to the atmosphere, a convenient place for the Candaian fans to reach, as well as being able to have a full Stadium. I guess if the pitch is all that bad, it wouldn’t have been a greater field to play on, but I don’t see how it could’ve been much worse. That field at Detroit was atrocious.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jun 10, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be honest I was wasn’t even thinking of the field

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

Mike Vick is a piece of shit

by Talon Talent on Jun 10, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they are going to lay temporary grass

There is absolutely no reason for CONCACAF nor the USSF to ignore Seattle. USA v Canada here would have been a better crowd, and a better game.

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by Dave Clark on Jun 10, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to disagree

Yes, Ford Field isn’t the best stadium for soccer, but it is a great stadium for the local fans who can’t afford to just hop a flight to the east coast, who can’t drive five or more hours one way on a weeknight to catch a game in Chicago or Columbus, and for who the South and West are just as impossible. The venue may not be the best in the world, but it opens up the opportunity for people who may otherwise never have the opportunity to see a game in person to do so.
Yeah, I’d love to be able to go see a match in New York or Seattle or or at Livestrong Park, but that just isn’t going to happen, so the fact that U.S. Soccer and CONCACAF chose Ford Field to host the match was actually kinda awesome.

by tacchon on Jun 10, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I like your point but...

I am in the same boat living in Birmingham, Alabama. The national team comes around here (Nashville) about once every 18-24 months. But….

There is usually more than one stadium option in every region. Surely there is more than one stadium option in the Detroit area?

I understand the need to promote U.S. Soccer in non-MLS markets but there are standards that do not need to be bent to do so.

Roll Tide and Vamos United!

by martincr70 on Jun 10, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Detroit stadiums

The variety of stadiums in the Detroit area is quite limited, Ford Field and the Silverdome being the only real options. While I don’t really understand why they chose Ford Field over the Silverdome, considering that there have been international friendlies played there in the past and it was an awesome experience. But, seeing as I don’t have the money or the power to make the decisions, just having it close to home was nice.

by tacchon on Jun 10, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been to Legion Field

I don’t have a problem with it. In fact, I like that place as a US venue. Point here is that it’s natural grass. (Still is, right?)

by Steve Davis on Jun 10, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was at the USA-Guatemala World Cup Qualifier in 2005...

… and I loved the environment at Legion Field. The worst part of it is that parking is a nightmare, and it literally almost took me longer to get out of the parking lot than it took to watch the whole game… but other than that, it was great.

And it was natural grass, too. It was great watching a game where the field didn’t threaten to injure our best players.

by vineyarddawg on Jun 11, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least they don't tease you

Here they hold training camps but no games. (I suspect the fact that the SS stadium only holds 10k has a lot to do with it, but still…)

by Splat on Jun 10, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Not Just a Stadium Issue

I agree with Steve about Ford Field and find it hard to believe that a more suitable field wasn’t available. But, CONCACAF didn’t just screw up with venue selection. Who was on the take when it came time to award the TV rights? I don’t have a problem with FSC doing games but they seem to be only doing USMNT games, at least in the group stage. For anyone else you news Telefutura. I don’t know about you, but I don’t get Telefutura on a regular basis (it would require an extra subscription on DirecTV)’ which means almost no exposure for CONCAVAF’s premier event in it’s largest market. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.

by sportsbiz on Jun 10, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I have DirecTV and have no TeleFutura.

Univision and Galavision, yes, but no TeleFutura.

by vineyarddawg on Jun 11, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Silverdome

I was also very surprised to hear it was at Ford Field, and not the SIlverdome. But, my guess is they wanted it at Ford Field to bring it to the heart of struggling Detroit. It was a good game and brought attention to the area, and I just hope the owners of the Silverdome work hard to make things right there. I’m up in Traverse City, but definitely want to make a few trips downstate each year to my home town of Detroit.

by locust on Jun 11, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

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