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Word to MLS suits, one more time: It's always about the players

Chicago Fire manager Carlos de los Cobos, one of two MLS coaches kicked to the curb this week.

MLS coaches keep telling us, it’s about the players. And yet, too many people out there don’t get it, forever convinced that formations, tactics and some kind of motivational fairy dust can compensate for a flawed roster. That includes a portion of the supporters, some media members and way too many MLS executives (who really ought to know better).

Yes, every once in a while a coach comes along who can build a nice little house from scrap lumber. But not often.

Jason Kreis says it took a few months, but he got it sorted out; he determined he was naïve in believing he could do more with less. He figured out that success at his craft started with gathering up the right supplies.

Schellas Hyndman needed more than a year to get the type players he wanted, and then his restoration project at Pizza Hut Park was off and flying. He told reporters over and over at last year's MLS Cup, as they asked how he did it, "It was just getting the right players in here."

Bruce Arena has always said it’s about the players. For more than 15 years he's been saying it.

Clearly, once managers have the right men, they still have to be the man with a plan. Coaching from there is about people management, about arranging the formations and tactics that summon the best from individuals and the group, about creating environments that foster success. But it starts with the players. The roster is ground zero.

This is on my mind because we just had the first two MLS sackings. One was pitifully predictable. One was altogether shocking.

Star-divide

In Chicago, Carlos de los Cobos never got it. He never laid solid grasp on understanding the kind of player it took in MLS.  So the personnel door revolved at Toyota Park while he imprudently shifted tactics and adjusted the roles, sometimes willy-nilly. It was Juan Carlos Osorio all over again. (Well, JCO in New York, not JCO in Chicago, where he actually had some success.) Whenever I see coaches moving players here and there and never settling on a way forward, I always think they are barking up the wrong tree. And I just turn the hour glass over, because I know they aren’t long for the MLS world.

Quick confession: I have a good relationship with quite a few MLS coaches. I never really even tried with de los Cobos. Not that I ever had anything against him – I just didn’t see the point. I never imagined him as someone that would stick around for a while.

Vancouver was different. Coach Teitur Thordarson was committed to his tactics. In all honesty, I thought his team looked fairly well organized. I certainly didn’t mind a slow-growth mantra. On the other hand, I didn’t really see understand the personnel selection strategy.

From the very start, there just wasn’t enough quality. Or quantity, which was particularly strange. There weren’t even enough players on the roster to begin a proper training camp last winter. And by first kick in MLS, there were still too many roster spots taken by tier II players, many of them holdovers from the Whitecaps days in USL.

In Chicago, I got the feeling that de los Cobos had more control over personnel. In Vancouver, I really have no idea. How much of the personnel mix was selected by Thordarson, and how much was technical director Tom Soehn?

I do know this: the situation in Vancouver already looks too much like the early days in Toronto. The team from BMO Field always looked like a drunk on the way home at 2 a.m.:  you know, swerving all over the road, never quite sure which turn to make. They never settled on a prevailing philosophy and so they languished, year after wasted year.

The suits in Vancouver picked Thordarson. Presumably, they all agreed on a philosophy of slow growth, which is why they selected a “project” in overall top MLS draft pick Omar Salgado. Fair enough. But stick with it already!

Firing coaches when the personnel mix isn’t right is just a fool’s errand. It’s about the players. It’s always about finding the right players.

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Funny how things change

I remember a few years ago when everyone wondered how Hyndman and Kreis have not been fired yet.

by GeoJock on Jun 3, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

not so sure...

The management of these teams sees things up close and personal, things that the rest of us (even journalists) don’t see. Good ones can tell when something is really wrong, something that won’t be fixed by a long-term plany. DC only kept Onalfo for half a season and you’d be hard pressed to find a DCU fan that would want him back at this point. Building takes time but if you think you have the wrong architect, better to rip off the bandaid…

by Irrlicht on Jun 3, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

why did Soehn get fired anyway?

I felt like he was successful aside from his final season, which if I remember correctly DC only barely didn’t make the playoffs. Then the FO decided to recruit newly fired Onalfo?

by chrisperry1983 on Jun 3, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

coaches...

Nowak was disciplined, so disciplined that the team grew tired of it. Though he handled the Adu situation beautifully and won a championship. I was kind of sorry to see him go. Soehn made bizarre substitutions and lost the team… (plus the guy always looks stressed, enough to stress you out just watching him) Onalfo was not an improvement. Too middle of the road, wasn’t putting his stamp on anything, though to be fair he didn’t have much time to do so. Still thinking that last year’s roster was sufficient was a pretty damning indictment of Onalfo. The beauty with Benny is that he’s such a team legend that the supporters have patience for him to really build the team, patience that wasn’t there with the last guys. And so far things are going pretty well with a very young team under Benny. I’m sure Chest or Shatz could provide more detailed and insightful retro-analysis but those are my recollections… Seattle did well to get Schmidt from the get-go. (like DCU with Arena)

by Irrlicht on Jun 5, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you're saying

but when clubs let their managers pick the rosters then it kind of is the manager’s fault if it doesn’t work out. I agree the Teidur sacking was too soon but CDLC had a decent amount of time in charge. As a SJ fan we have benefited from two of his poor decisions to get rid of Jon Busch and Tim Ward.

Win or lose, we'll always be there for you.

by johnjahafanclub on Jun 3, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Pep Guardiola agrees with Steve

He just won the Spanish league and the UCL. Is he satisfied? No! He wants to sign Atletico Madrid’s Sergio Aguero.. So there you have it. Even the coach of the best team in the world wants better players. (It’s debatable whether Aguero is actually better than what they already have though…)

by DrWeevil on Jun 3, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you just ...

… somehow drop little ol’ me and Pep Guardiola into the same boat? Well, color me flattered. I think I’m blushing. (I know you didn’t REALLY do that … but I’m going with it anyway.)

by Steve Davis on Jun 6, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

…the truth of the matter was that I initially disagreed. I’ve seen the same group of players perform very differently for different coaches. There was the Ronald Koeman experience at Valencia, for instance (in case you didn’t follow that soap opera, they fired Quique Sanchez Flores while in fourth place (2007), brought in Koeman, and barely escaped relegation). But then I saw the story that I linked to and it hit me like a 2×4. It’s as if ol’ Pep was saying “It’s the players, stupid!”

BTW, a little off topic. Anyone else finding the stockpiling of great players by FC Barcelona and Real Madrid just a little off-putting? Of course you can win if you’ve got the cash. They took Villa from Valencia. Now they’re set to take Rossi from Villareal and Aguero from Atletico. They are buying success, and in doing so are turning La Liga into the SPL. About the only upside is that they still can only field 11 at one time.

by DrWeevil on Jun 6, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree, but only to a point

I’m hardly a La Liga expert, but weren’t quite a few of their best players developed through the system? So long as they aren’t buying ALL the players, I’m not going to get in too much of a huff about it.

by Steve Davis on Jun 7, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

De los Cobos is a good manager, I guess he got a bit carried away with his experiments on the pitch.

by SWS on Jun 15, 2011 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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