The summer friendly debate: let's make sure it's a fair fight
I know disparate opinions exist on mid-season friendlies that match MLS sides against the fancy-pants sides from Europe and Mexico. I’m on record as saying, essentially, they once held great value as MLS established its brand, they still hold some value … but that the value will gradually diminish.
But there is one element to the argument that I don’t see mentioned very often. Soccer America’s veteran curmudgeon Paul Gardner just brushes by the subject in this piece as he rails against a practice that he labels “demeaning” to MLS. And as I've mentioned, Dave Clark has written extensively on all this at Sounder at Heart. (Spoiler alert: he ain't a fan.)
The (frequently missing) factor in question is this: somebody will host these friendlies, even if MLS teams opt out – and that someone will most likely reap boffo profits from them.
Whether you care for them or not, you must acknowledge their money-making potential for MLS clubs. Personally, and I have zero problem with owners attempting to make a buck off an enterprise that remains, on the whole, mercilessly unprofitable. But for all the reasons we’ve talked about (dents to perception of MLS quality, fixture congestion, additional personnel wear and tear, etc.) the whole summer friendly bit remains highly imperfect.
But all that may be beside the point. Unless, that is, you’re OK with some slick event promoter or NFL owner who couldn’t care less about soccer or MLS, but who is happy to step in and siphon off some soccer supporter dough – money that might otherwise have gone to the very MLS clubs that have worked so hard to develop the markets.
Let’s take a guy like Jerry Jones, the Dallas Cowboys profit-minded owner, who wants so badly to fill dates that he recently ponied up for 2,100 man hours to construct a bowling alley inside his colossus of a stadium, which became the unlikely venue for the 2011 Bowling U.S. Women’s Open finals.
So, he probably doesn’t need the World Football Challenge, which is tied to Soccer United Marketing, which is an arm of MLS, to bring in Mexican teams to town and make a fast buck. He’d be happy to act as promoter on his own, fill up the place and count his money. Instead, because MLS has remained involved, Barcelona will face Club América on Aug. 6 as part of the World Football Challenge. Jones still gets his cut, but it’s only a cut. S.U.M. and MLS get their cut, too.
Obviously, there’s no MLS team involved in this one. But pairing these matches with contests that do involve MLS teams defrays the costs of it all, which adds cash to individual teams.
So, you may not fancy these friendlies, and I get it. Just be sure not to gloss over this important element of the debate. The guerilla marketers are out there, and they are hungry.
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Easier to be in favor of "trophies not friendlies"
when your mls side is selling out 34k avg attendance and has multiple DP’s than when your mls side plays in the worst stadium in the league, gets 9.5k avg attendance, and is 2nd to last in player wages.
Plus, now that we have the reserve league and expanded rosters, a lot more reserve players are getting playing time and good experience in these summer friendlies, which also helps save the legs of the starters.
Win or lose, we'll always be there for you.
by johnjahafanclub on Jul 26, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
Not to speak for dave...
But I believe the whole “trophies not friendlies” movement has been a bit misinterpreted. Dave nor Sounder at Heart, as far as I know, has ever called for the systematic rejection of friendlies. Rather, it was focused on the Seattle market and the lack of real need for friendlies there. Now, I’m happy to see the movement spread, but it by no means is meant as a one-size-fits-all solution.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 26, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the second graph of your comment. The two friendlies in LA featured a lot of the reserve squad. It was good to see those young guys get a chance to play in front of a full crowd.
It was also good to see MLS coverage on Sky Sports.
by Josie Becker on Jul 26, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
San Jose is a perfect example of a team that probably needs a friendly
but only as a one time payday. There is not effect on season-to-season attendance. It doesn’t get players rest (because they wouldn’t be PLAYING if not for a the friendly). While it feels great for the players to get on the field with these greats, it doesn’t help them become better players.
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Actually it can help them.
The best way to improve your game is to go against people better than you are. When I was a kid, 30 years ago, I got the chance to play against West Brom and it made a huge difference to my game. I’d played against individual players who were that good, but nothing like a whole team at that level. There are some things that can’t be imagined or simulated and going against a team with that kind of skill, pace, and intensity is one of them. There is also a lingering confidence boost from knowing you have gone against the very best, even if you didn’t do well. (In our case we lost 7-1 and I got personally burned like I’d never been before)
So it can help make opponents better players, because it did for me.
What is the cost of these spectacles?
Yes, there is a hefty payday for the friendlies. But what is the long term cost to the league? Does anyone have any idea how they may affect future attendance? (especially after your favorite MLS team gets smoked 7-0, 4-1, etc.) Whatever the answer is, there can be little question about Gardner’s assertion that this demeans MLS, and anything that belittles your brand can’t be good. Thought experiment: Would the EPL ever be caught dead doing this?
The question I have is this: If MLS were to see this as a threat (and I don’t believe they do, yet), is there anything they could do through FIFA to prevent rival confederations and leagues from poaching their market?
I wouldn't know how that feels to watch euro clubs smoke my MLS team b/c
my MLS team tied tottenham 0-0 last year and beat west brom 2-1 this year
Win or lose, we'll always be there for you.
by johnjahafanclub on Jul 26, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
as a Union fan I also am foreign to this
as we have beaten Celtic 1-0, Chivas Guadalajara 1-0, and Everton 1-0, while losing close games to Manchester United 1-0, and Real Madrid 2-1.
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Mike Vick is a piece of shit
We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT
by Talon Talent on Jul 26, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Philly still won't sell out
still won’t get major media attention for regular season games
And still won’t win a trophy.
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check your facts
we do sell out, quite often. We will get major media attention when Mwanga is a top runner for the USMNT as well as Pfeffer who is on the come up, and our 1st trophy is only 115 days away. By the way, great game against Man U.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
Mike Vick is a piece of shit
We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT
by Talon Talent on Jul 29, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
and
before you say “That was our reserves” we had a handful of Academy Players on the field when we scored to beat Everton and we had a huge amount of reserves on the field when we scored against real madrid ( while they had Kaka, Ronaldo, etc. on the field at the same time) A 7-0 nothing whooping should never have an excuse.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
Mike Vick is a piece of shit
We be journalizing, son.
by JimmyK on Jul 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT
by Talon Talent on Jul 29, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never made an excuse for the friendly
because I realize that they don’t matter. At all. They are exhibitions, and that’s it.
And, no, Philly doesn’t sell out a ton this year. Gate is down, significantly. Everything else you mention is a dream, not yet reality. Mwanga is being courted by Congo (Zakuani is part of that). Philly might trohpy, but they are only competing for one, because they don’t have the depth to compete for the US Open Cup.
Two years, two trophies, two playoff appearances. I’ll take that over any friendly result.
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If anything, FIFA is capitalist
The question I have is this: If MLS were to see this as a threat (and I don’t believe they do, yet), is there anything they could do through FIFA to prevent rival confederations and leagues from poaching their market?
FIFA won’t stand in the way of their biggest clubs when they look to make extra money and bring more notoriety to the game. It’s up to MLS and SUM to organize super-club games so that they can maximize profits while minimizing perception of inferiority. Tricky, but feasible, I think. I’d approach it from a couple angles:
- direct friendlies only vs. mid- or low-table Euros, like San Jose taking on tottenham and west brom. Also, no summer friendlies for clubs in CCL.
- doubleheaders of super-club vs. super-club and an MLS, USOC, or CCL match.
More on "MLS demeans itself"
I’ve always felt that MLS teams play the part of the Washington Generals to the Harlem Globetrotters of the world in this summer friendly extravaganza. This only reinforces that feeling.
KC Wizards 2, ManU 1 was a sensation last year.
It gave a lot of credibility to a team stuck in one of the smallest, worst venues in the MLS and burdened with a lack of local resonance in sports media.
I don’t know what the numbers were, but I assume a lot of 2011 season tickets for KC were sold back in the summer of 2010. These friendlies can make a big positive impact on the bottom line after they occur.
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I'm betting a SSS stadium has more relationship to season tickets than friendlies
noting that every team gets a bump from a new SSS, and as of yet none have a provable bump from a friendly.
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The Wizards sold 700 season tickets the day after beating Man U.
Source: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/07/26/2109324/wizards-sell-700-season-tickets.html
As the article states, these were new season ticket holders.
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by J.Schnauzer on Jul 28, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Baby Steps
The ultimate factor here has to be money. Like Steve said, MLS is not exactly a profit rich institution, so they have to make a buck or million where they can. Will it be like this forever? Probably not, but it’s all a process. Right now MLS is a third rate league compared to the rest of the world………but hey, not so long ago it was a fourth rate league. But it can’t be anything if the teams keep leaking money like a rusty rowboat. We’re about to have WPS go under, I see nothing wrong with its male counterpart doing what it can to keep the doors open.
As for the Washington Generals comments………..well what would happen if the Dallas Mavericks did a exhibition tour of Germany right now? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Baby steps folks, just 25 years ago American soccer was at its nadir, a league that failed spectacularly, along with a World Cup drought of decades. Now? A third rate league is better than none, and a Round of 16 defeat at the World Cup is considered a disappointment.
American soccer can be improved, but comparatively? We’re doing just fine.
by Alex Horlan on Jul 26, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Thanks for playing, Alex
A very reasonable, articulate take (and not just b/c it more or less aligns with my own!)
I don't see playing in a friendly as demeaning
Nobody accused MLS teams of demeaning themselves when they played NA SuperLiga for four years. At the time, they just raked in the money while pretending it was a fair measure of the two leagues.
Internacional of Brazil are on break from their regular season (which is going so badly they just sacked their coach) to play friendlies in Europe. And they’ve won every title there is to win, including the Libertadores and World Club Cup. You have to make money to invest in your club to keep improving.
If you’re worried about MLS teams demeaning themselves, save your ire for the fact it’ll take a few more years before you can say MLS consistently outperforms Honduran teams in the Champion’s League.
Except that MLS teams do consistently outperform Honduran in the CCL
the coeffecients prove it.
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