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No matter how you feel about Bob Bradley, about Jürgen Klinsmann, about Sunil Gulati – and opinions certainly are robust on everyone involved in the previous, fast-moving 48 hours of U.S. Soccer news – there most certainly will be fascinating times ahead. Oh, and lots of umlauts ... but that's a different story.

Klinsmann will be officially introduced Monday in New York. And so will begin a period of “Well, you got what you asked for … ” Because SO many supporters have longed for their Klinsi. And that’s understandable. He is a charismatic figure who is uniquely positioned in the soccer world. As I said before, if you built the perfect U.S. Soccer coach, you’d finish with something that looks like Herr Klinsmann.

He’s still relatively young (he turns 47 today), but he has checked the most important “been there, done that” boxes of the global game: specifically, he’s been a World Cup champ as a player and coached in a World Cup. Meanwhile, he loves America (lives here, has an American wife, etc.) and understands the complicated plumbing involved in American youth and professional soccer.

I wrote a piece yesterday for SI.com analyzing which players in the U.S. pool stand to benefit, and which ones might see their place on the national team suffer. We’ll know a little more about that next week when the fed announces a roster for an Aug. 10 match against Mexico. Between then and now, we can only hope to get answers to a few questions that are begging to be answered. Read on …

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We’ll know so much just be his initial selection of players. Will Klinsmann choose guys like Steve Cherundolo and Carlos Bocanegra, who are clearly good soldiers who still possess the ability to compete internationally? Or, will he hasten to turn the page and begin blooding a new generation of talent? There’s no question that the new coach appreciates what Cherundolo and Bocanegra can contribute in the short term. But he may want more. If he’s thinking “qualify for World Cup,” they can surely help achieve that aim. If he’s thinking “Get past second round in Brazil,” the coach may recognize that Cherundolo and Bocanegra will be 35 by the time Brazil 2014 rolls around, where they’ll have less value.

So, we’ll see. What are his thoughts on guys like Juan Agudelo, whom Bradley and his staff attempted to protect and shield from expectations?  Bastian Schweinsteiger and Lukas Podolski were 21 years old when they became revelations at the 2006 World Cup, important attackers during Germany’s third-place finish.  They would have been 18 three years before World Cup 2006 – which is exactly where we are now in relation to Brazil 2014.

And speaking of revelations, what a fun team that was to behold in 2006!  “Grinsi-Klinsi” changed the German soccer culture. Imagine that!  He turned the German game completely on its head; what was once all about clockwork organization and hardass determination morphed into something that was … uh … what’s the word? Oh! Yes … “fun.” They attacked in numbers and, generally speaking, attacked the game with joy.

Here’s a pretty good piece you can check out on Klinsmann's revolutionary training methods and his embrace of more fluid, offensive-oriented ways. 

Now, there are other issues that we’ll all need to monitor. For instance, Klinsmann’s next managerial stop after Germany ’06 was Bayern Munich, where times were immediately tumultuous and went sideways quickly. It sounds like a time wrought with politics, but you can judge for yourself. Here’s some background on that. And here's a terrific piece on how the Klinsi era began at Bayern, with lots of great stuff on Klinsmann's visions for the German giants. Be sure to check out both parts, 

By the way, I’ve seen some cynical sniping about Klinsmann’s consulting role at Toronto FC, which continues to struggle. That’s just silly. That may or may prove successful, but it’s WAY too early to judge. Aron Winter and Bob de Klerk (whom Klinsmann helped select) have said all along that identifying and securing the right players for their system at BMO Field will take time; it’s a three-year plan, they’ve always said. So, I can only assume the critics want a return to TFC’s former, wandering, impulsive ways, which never needed to be burdened by anything so naïve and restrictive as a long-term plan. But let’s not digress …

Moving forward, here's a good piece at SI.com that examines the potential ups and downs for U.S. Soccer's newest, most famous face.

And just for the heck of it, here’s Grant Wahl’s revealing conversation with Klinsmann from more than a year ago, where the new U.S. manager covers a variety of topics.

A fascinating period of U.S. Soccer began Thursday. It picks up speed on Monday. So, here we go …

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The next 4 years

Will be the make or break period for US Soccer in my opinion. Either we assert ourselves as a future contender for a World Cup, or we solidify our place as an annual also ran (i.e. a Mexico or a Ghana)

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by Nick Petrilli on Jul 30, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

That's more than a bit hyperbolic

Soccer in the U.S. has seen a slow but steady rise in both talent and popularity in the last 20+ years. To say that this rising tide will just stop because of a relatively weak World Cup cycle is absurd. We’re finally getting the mechanisms in place to produce a consistent pipeline of talent, and far greater exposure from domestic media outlets. I don’t know if we will ever be considered “a contender” but that certainly won’t be decided over a relatively short period of time.

by kingofzachland on Jul 30, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Agree, to An Extent

I agree that these next four years will be huge. but i hold that it is the next two World Cup cycles that will make or break the US Soccer system.

WC2006 was great for Klinsmann, but the success of the German team in 2010 showed that his vision worked. tranlsate that here to America, where we have decent youth players that i saw in the U-17 World Cup in Mexico. eight years from now, those players should be the mainstays in the national team. i think that their success or failure will define how America should be viewed in the future. especially if America actually gets consideration for hosting WC2026. that seems far away, now, but if Kilnsmann and Reyna actually upgrade the youth pipeline and improve the quality of player produced here, then i would be a happy man.

that, and Americans are not so invested in soccer as to call for the coaches head if there are no immediate positive results. so as long as Gulati has some patience, then we should be ok.

It is my hope that before i die i witness these two things at least once - The Titans winning a Super Bowl and Team USA winning the World Cup.

by Pulp Fiction on Jul 30, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Except for, of course

That mass of USA fans who were demanding Bradley’s (and still Gulati’s) head

by musamonster on Jul 30, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, But

If the mass of fans in the USA have some soccer intellect and know what Klinsmann was able to do with Germany, that should buy him some time. i am thinking sometime in the last phase of WC2014 qualifying when the USA has to play some of the better teams in the region. if our fanbase cannot give him that much time, i guess that is a good thing in one respect. there is more passion for the game, which is always good.

besides, i think that Gulati finally saw the light when he actually got rid of Bradley.

It is my hope that before i die i witness these two things at least once - The Titans winning a Super Bowl and Team USA winning the World Cup.

by Pulp Fiction on Jul 31, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is OT to Klinsmann, but since you linked to your SI piece...

the juxtaposition of your pictures on SI and here, Steve, is pretty hilarious!

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by Nick on Jul 30, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Will he break the pattern:

1990- 3 losses
1994- 1-1-1, respectable 10 man performance in round 2
1998- 3 losses
2002- 1-1-1, beat Mexico, resp. loss to Germany in quarters
2006- 2 losses and a draw
2010- 1-2-0, tired legs lose to Ghana in round 2
2014- ???

I think if Bradley had stayed on, we had a better chance of holding true to form. An old squad would not have gotten out of the group stage. Klinsmann opens the door to a new stage in the development of US Soccer.

Captain, there are doubt's...

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by Match Day 5 on Jul 30, 2011 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully So

I am hoping that he can break this pattern. i am in full agreement that if Bradley was there at the next World Cup, then we would have crashed out in the group phase. developing our players would be a beautiful thing…

It is my hope that before i die i witness these two things at least once - The Titans winning a Super Bowl and Team USA winning the World Cup.

by Pulp Fiction on Jul 31, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

To me, the two most important things for Klinsmann over the next 3 years are (in this order):
- Work w Claudio Reyna to develop some base universal tactics and skills to be taught in MLS academies and some other academies in non-MLS markets. Make sure these are available to promising kids that couldn’t afford the club system.
- Call up lots of young players and dual citizenship guys to develop a younger base for the NT.

Compared to these issues, I don’t care if we beat Mexico on Aug 10. Even getting to knockouts in Brazil is secondary to long-term fixes. This is a huge opportunity to set a much better foundation for the system, and that’s much more important than short-term results.

by fennsk1 on Jul 30, 2011 11:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

In Full Agreement

It is my hope that before i die i witness these two things at least once - The Titans winning a Super Bowl and Team USA winning the World Cup.

by Pulp Fiction on Jul 31, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exploit the Honeymoon

(But first, muchos kudos, Davis, for filling my Sunday morning with your pieces here and in SI and all those links about Klinski. The resources of the internet at their best.)

Now for Klinski. He will walk on water at least until the unlikely happens — a home loss to a Central American/Caribbean opponent in the first round of WC qualifying.

The new manager needs a new team wearing USA colors. The upcoming friendlies beginning with Mexico offer Klinski the only opportunity he will get — without getting pelted by second-guessing fans — to find the next generation of players to blend with proven, still-viable veterans like Donovan, Dempsey and Howard. Did I miss any vets who should be guaranteed places going forward? I don’t think so. Look around the field and the bench. Who else is young enough or has shown themselves good enough to participate in the forward leap that’s hopefully on Klinski’s agenda. Maybe a couple of more names belong on the my list, but there aren’t a lot of vets who should enter a Klinski camp feeling a USA slot is theirs to lose.

The agenda for the Mexico friendly should not be revenge, although this would be nice. It should be finding the younger players and new faces who offer hope that USA can improve on the last couple of meaningful outings against CONCACAF’s best team. We know what Bradley’s troops couldn’t do against Mexico. The next set of friendlies should be talent hunts. USSF says it wants to schedule more friendlies ahead of WC qualifying. These matches can be used to blend and develop the squad that will enter that competition. If the talent search comes up short, then the vets who are bypassed by the upcoming friendlies can be restored to grace.

If Klinski brings the latest Bradley squad to the Mexico match, for me it will be an extremely disappointing start to his USA tenure. Play newbies. Find out what they can do. Another loss to Mexico. Big deal. Nobody will hold it against Klinski or a newbie squad. Herr Klinsmann, don’t squander this opportunity by trying to recreate the past.

by Runningcloud on Jul 31, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

well put

He could even announce this match as the first step of Olympic prep, and only call 3 players over 23.
I really hope he can put together his assistant staff before Aug 10.
To your list of players young enough and good enough to feel secure in their spots I would add Michael Bradley. He’s still only 24, and is a solid DMC with offensive skill. Should fit Klinsmann’s approach very well. Stuart Holden is on the edge of this category and I think his versatility will help him find a spot in the WC roster. Brek Shea also has the positivity and adaptability to do well at some position under Klinsmann, too.

by fennsk1 on Jul 31, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

agree

i am cool with US soccer,FMF, SUM and whatever other acronyms are out there “Don King”-ing the US-Mexico rivalry to make some easy $, but I hope we don’t try to win all of these games and sacrificing the critical few chances we have to learn about what we have and how it best fits together. the fact is that we need to be thinking about the future. its just a bonus that the game happens to be against our best competition in the region and a rival.

by jyj on Aug 1, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

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