MLS Cup final at the higher seed's ground ... it's getting closer
Sometimes I get these weird feelings, like something meaningful is about to happen.
It may be intuition. It may be linked to something that someone told me in confidence. Or, in all honestly, these “feelings” may just be the product of too much spicy food. You never know.
Either way, I’m getting a “feeling” these days related to MLS …
I believe we’re creeping closer to fruition on a notion I really love, deciding the MLS Cup final on the grounds of the higher seed involved.
I love the concept for two reasons: First, it attaches even more weight to the MLS regular season. It’s takes a huge bite from the butt of the argument that the seven-plus months of regular season games have only a marginal impact on the eventual champion. It would, without question, move the season further along the continuum of relevancy.
Secondly, the MLS Cup final will have a big-game feel about it. Not just every now and then, but regularly. Every. Single. Year. And that’s huge. That palpable aura of excitement and city-wide enthusiasm that you just can’t replicate at neutral sites creates the memories and the moments that make the league.
Put Portland, Seattle, Toronto, D.C. United .... heck, anybody ... in a final inside their own stadium and that bad boy would rock like Eddie Vedder back in the day!
You can’t replicate that earnest passion and emotion at neutral sites, that is, unless Seattle is involved. Then you get close, at least,
In fact, this idea first gained traction around the 2009 MLS Cup final in Seattle. I said then that it was going to happen sooner or later. I still believe that. I remember having a conversation with Real Salt Lake owner Dave Checketts down on the Qwest Field pitch, about 24 hours prior to MLS Cup 2009. There was such a great feeling and wonderful atmosphere around that MLS Cup. (Because it was Seattle, downtown venue, march to the match, etc.) Checketts and others recognized the moment and the energy and understood that getting home teams regularly involved was the best way to dependably duplicate it.
There were always two major impediments to a home-field final, both attached to logistics. Keep reading for why it hasn’t already happened. …
One, it’s difficult to plan for hotels and hospitality. As I’ve said before, one of the dirty little secrets in all American sports leagues is how much energy and effort attached to these championships is directed to the pomp, parties and preening of the movers and shakers. In a nutshell, it’s difficult to plan lavish parties and secure the right kind of meeting space and high-dollar dinner space that corporate sponsors, team owners and team officials expect. Like it or not, schmoozing is part of the gig when it comes to talks on TV, league policy, etc.
As Checketts told me then: “If you have six days to get ready for a championship match, hotels and set-up becomes very, very difficult.” Fair enough.
The other obstacle to this idea was always about stadium availability. (Or in a few cases, about the impracticality of an MLS Cup in certain stadiums. How do you think a title match would have looked, for instance, inside the tiny, goofy confines of CommunityAmerica Ballpark in Kansas City?)
Going back to the MLS bad old days, this idea of home-field for the higher seed was an absolute non-starter because too many clubs operated as tenants in stadiums with higher priorities (college or NFL football, of course). Even as recently as three years ago, five of 14 teams shared stadiums. Heck, even this year, three clubs can’t claim 100 percent authority over their stadiums.
Well, a new day is dawning when almost every MLS club will exert primary control over its stadium dates. And almost every club has a stadium capable of hosting the big banana without making the league look rinky-dink.
By next year, out of 19 teams, only New England, Seattle and San Jose would pose problems. The Revolution and Sounders could face issues due to NFL scheduling. The Earthquakes would be an issue because Buck Shaw will be, easily, the smallest and least adorned MLS venue. I mean, where would they put the corporate luxury box?
Seattle would probably block out the MLS Cup weekend at its stadium. So, no worries there, really. The Kraft family and New England. Who knows? And San Jose … well, let’s just call it a 1 in 19 chance and not worry too much about it.
Either way, we’re talking about a small enough percentage of potential snags that the idea isn’t just a pie-in-the-sky notion anymore.
And those other logistical hurdles, about set-up and such. It’s not really that tricky. Two weeks out, we’d all know the two potential championship sites. MLS and Soccer United Marketing (SUM) are major enough properties now that major hotel chains would work with them, blocking off rooms in two cities. Besides, most MLS cities are large enough to accommodate the (relatively low) level of visitor traffic MLS Cup matches would bring.
Most of the fans would be local, not in need of hotels, rental cars, etc. Which, of course, is the whole idea.
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“As Checketts told me then: "If you have six days to get ready for a championship match, hotels and set-up becomes very, very difficult." Fair enough.”
Isn’t there a two-week gap between the semis and MLS Cup due to FIFA dates this year? If MLS reps had concerns over the lack of time for preparation, this year would have been perfect to try this theory out. I know it’s too late now, just saying.
Personally, I really don’t like the fact that there is a two week gap, but with more teams added to the league and therefore a probable longer season. Having the semi land before FIFA game days, and having MLS Cup be played afterwards, isn’t a bad trade off to have the league prepare themselves for MLS Cup at the home of the higher seed. Two weeks should be plenty of time to prepare, right?
I'm sure SJ wouldn't be a problem either...
They are getting more and more comfy with using Stanford Stadium, to the degree I’m told they can use almost whenever they want. Obviously, Stanford playing on Saturday’s poses logistical issues, but there’s no reason to think a MLS Cup game couldn’t be held there.
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Would have to prep 3 cities
Steve, if the semifinalist with the worst record won, either one of the other semifinalist could host the Final. So, unless both LA (or NYC) teams were still alive, your plan would involve tentative booking in 3 places.
by fennsk1 on Sep 21, 2011 3:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
By the way ...
Another great argument for this that I didn’t even get to: baseball, NBA, NHL, etc., they all manage to put together championship logistics on short notice. I know it’s not a one-off like MLS, but still …
How about
moving it from the weekend? Especially if it involves New England or the Sounders? Tuesday is completely free, and on a one week between semis and the final would give a couple of extra days to prepare. MLB, NHL and NBA don’t mind playing weekdays. Let MLS own the day, rather than have to fight the NFL.
attendance is always lower in midweek games, isn’t it?
by coys_from_wny on Sep 21, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
But for a Championship
the fans will always show up if it’s at their home
weekday tv potential is much weaker, too.
You do like to think outside the box, musa. No way that ABC would reschedule primetime shows in favor of MLS Cup.
I think it should be on a Saturday. Easier to run counter to college football than NFL
by fennsk1 on Sep 21, 2011 7:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ABC
hasn’t shown MLS cup for 2 years now, right? ESPN would probably love to have a feature event on a Tuesday night, though.
Just have the teams with shared stadiums not schedule a home game in the stadium MLS Cup weekend.
BOOM! Problem solved.
by SoundersForever on Sep 21, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's what he meant when he said Seattle would probably "block out" MLS Cup weekend
Which we would, because it would make a lot of money for everyone involved.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Sep 23, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I was replying to @musamonster.
@musamonster was suggesting moving it from the weekend to a weekday. I think there are enough teams with their owns stadiums that automatically don’t share a stadium that you could make this work with the teams that do share a stadium.
by SoundersForever on Sep 23, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Vancouver poses a problem, too
The Whitecaps share BC Place with the BC Lions of the CFL. The CFL playoffs are the final three weekends of November, all games on Sunday, so it could be a significant problem.
new england wouldn't be a problem.
new england at their current pace with current ownership wouldn’t matter because they’ll never make back to mls cup, or even the playoffs.
And yet
the Revs have made MLS Cup 4 times, all within the last 10 years
by musamonster on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So what happens...
down the road when the league expands more and goes to an unbalanced schedule. It would really stink to see an okay team that dominated a weaker conference hosting the final against a better team that had to fight to top a stronger conference.
You can only
play the games that are scheduled for you… At least homefield advantage isn’t determined by the All-Star game… yet.
Home-field advantage in baseball is really arbitrary, though
It’s not like football, where having a large percentage of the stadium making noise is going to distract your opponent.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Sep 23, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
*Nominal, not arbitrary
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Sep 23, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A Big Game Feel with Empty Seats...
How many MLS cities could guarantee a sellout of a MLS Cup final played at a home site with 6 or 7 days notice in mid to late November? All the most recent teams added could…I concede that. But I am not sure any of the originals would…including Los Angeles at the HDC. Take a look at some of the playoff attendances in recent years at the original 10 teams and only Houston during their MLS Cup runs had packed houses for their conference playoff final games.
Heres an idea: Stop having the game in places like Toronto
You have to take the same approach that the NFL and College football do: a warm weather city.
Los Angeles, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Houston, Miami, etc.
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Sep 28, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions

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